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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2010, 12:52:00 PM »
Honestly, Drediock is correct.  We expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes but we 'furballers' aren't following our own advice.  With the increased 'dar coverage there is no more excuse as to why a side couldn't up a DEFCAP to intercept the high altitude bombers.  The furballers need to get out of the mindless furballing mentality and realize that the game play dynamics have changed and now one must think with an offensive and defensive mindset.  That means flying more escort missions, fighter sweeps, DEFCAPs and intercepts.  Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past, so is mindless furballing.

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2010, 01:29:17 PM »
Well, last night at 25K it was one hell of an onslaught- our B17's and various escorts vs. a highly motivated group of 262's. We were prevented from doing any serious damage to any of the three targets we had planned on the northern edge of the Bish/Rook front. It turned into a running firefight almost all the way back to rtb. We survived for the most part, but not without running most our 50 cal's dry of ammuntion. I bet if the game allowed it, there would have been a fuselage floor covered in shells in my B17. :D Very fun fight last night. :cool:

So, it is possible to stop something like this. Observation, patience, & motivation is key.
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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2010, 04:40:22 PM »
Honestly, Drediock is correct.  We expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes but we 'furballers' aren't following our own advice.  With the increased 'dar coverage there is no more excuse as to why a side couldn't up a DEFCAP to intercept the high altitude bombers.  The furballers need to get out of the mindless furballing mentality and realize that the game play dynamics have changed and now one must think with an offensive and defensive mindset.  That means flying more escort missions, fighter sweeps, DEFCAPs and intercepts.  Just like hord NOE missions are a thing of the past, so is mindless furballing.

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I completely disagree, I do not expect anyone to fly, any other way, then they want to.
     I Am A Furballer I don't give a rats arse about the war or any other aspect, except killing red guys, and I will be damned if I let anyone dictate how I fly, The "mindless" furballing mentality,  is anything but "mindless"  and for me and many others it's the only thing that keeps us coming back.

You are so wrong, just because YOU have been broken down and beaten into submission, don't mean I or many other "mindless furballers" will be.

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2010, 04:42:31 PM »
<-------- lining up on some FHs right now.  :devil
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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2010, 04:54:50 PM »
Leave the fighter hangars alone, or the kitty gets it!!!!  :furious :devil

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2010, 06:20:53 PM »
I completely disagree, I do not expect anyone to fly, any other way, then they want to.
     I Am A Furballer I don't give a rats arse about the war or any other aspect, except killing red guys, and I will be damned if I let anyone dictate how I fly, The "mindless" furballing mentality,  is anything but "mindless"  and for me and many others it's the only thing that keeps us coming back.

You are so wrong, just because YOU have been broken down and beaten into submission, don't mean I or many other "mindless furballers" will be.

Then continue to whine when the bombers destroy the FHs because you couldn't be bothered to intercept them and keep the fight going.  Adapt or get off the pot.

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2010, 06:44:28 PM »
Leave the fighter hangars alone, or the kitty gets it!!!!  :furious :devil

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2010, 06:50:19 PM »
Except hitting towns for points ;)


That's all i am willing to do now, I am not willing to trek all the way across the map just to get slapped be a bunch of 163s ankle humpin for the kills.

I just think strat's are lame now and useless.

come to think of it i have not seen any HQ raids as of late.
not that i ever thought it was fun, I'M just sayin that's all.



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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2010, 06:54:53 PM »
Interesting at this point of the thread. The one thing I have noticed of late is the culture of of our Chess piece country's. Lets look at the Nits they can't hold any realestate on any late war map Orange or Blue big or small map & when most countires are getting their tails handed to them they will move on to another arena & will dominate it.

Not the Nits though for the most part they will have both maps screwed up in both late war arenas & just seem to be waiting for the war to be won or Titanic Tuesday for a map reset or what ever gets there first.


Interestingly the Nits who cry the most about their hangers going down will do nothing to prevent it & seem to want to fly to the quickest fight no matter what. May be just a bunch of guys over there that have not matured in the game enough to do different things? Just as a side note I have noticed a lot of former Nits flying Bish of late. The rot seems to have set in on that part of the chess board for now & maybe with some time they will adapt as AKAK said.

Got to agree with AKAK on this matter adapt Nits or just stay on the BBS a moan about it. :bolt:

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2010, 06:47:40 PM »
Then continue to whine when the bombers destroy the FHs because you couldn't be bothered to intercept them and keep the fight going.  Adapt or get off the pot.

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sorry not a "whiner"

"Adapt or get off the pot"  you say, :rofl

so now YOU are telling me, to fly the way you want me to :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2010, 07:09:03 PM »



Actually you & your squad adapt many times in a day by changing country's to find the fights you like. So AKAK comments sort of is already happening from a Muppet perspective? :headscratch: Then again maybe not.

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2010, 07:37:21 PM »
sorry not a "whiner"

"Adapt or get off the pot"  you say, :rofl

so now YOU are telling me, to fly the way you want me to :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

yesa masa..i will do what ya tell me masa... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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I'm not telling you how to fly at all, don't know where you're pulling that out of your ass.  The game play dynamics have changed, it's up to you to either adapt to the new changes or wither on the vine.  It's very hypocritical to expect the toolshedders to adapt to the new changes while in the same breath refusing to do so yourself.

I guess some people just fear change...

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2010, 08:09:39 PM »
I completely disagree, I do not expect anyone to fly, any other way, then they want to.
     I Am A Furballer I don't give a rats arse about the war or any other aspect, except killing red guys, and I will be damned if I let anyone dictate how I fly, The "mindless" furballing mentality,  is anything but "mindless"  and for me and many others it's the only thing that keeps us coming back.

You are so wrong, just because YOU have been broken down and beaten into submission, don't mean I or many other "mindless furballers" will be.

Well if your not willing to be part of the solution. Then you have no legitimate whine in the problem.

Check my stats over the last several years. You wont see me in many bomber flights. I'm just telling it like it is.
If ALL you want to do is kill red guys and not worry abut bombers or tool shedders then you should be spending most of your time in the DA as that seems to be pretty much what its set up for.
The MA is a free for all where the objective is in HTCs very own words "to piss the other guy off"

You dont like what they are doing, thats just too bad. Do something about it. Your the man in the cartoon airplane.
If your into historically accurate WWII air war. then thats what it was primarily about. For fighters it was to either help the bombers get to target to blow up "toolsheds" by defending against other fighters. Orrr to prevent the bombers from toolshedding.
For bombers. it was to get to target and blow up the stuff on the ground (toolsheds) Often to aid in the capture of territory. Or to reduce the enemies ability to wage war (including being able to put up fighter aircraft)

If your not willing to do something about it. Then you deserve whatever you get because your part of your own problem.

Regardless. if your furballing. In the MA you are taking part in intentionally or unintentionally either the attack and capture of that base, or the defense of it

I like to furball alot too. But I have to admit. furballing IS a mindess mentality. A fun mindless mentality. And not quite as mindless as spawn camping  But mindless nontheless.
But there is nothing wrong with that if thats what your into. You dont want to be dictated to how to fly. Fine.  But you loose legitimate complaint in complaining about toolshedders.B ecause then your are doing the exact same thing that you dont want done to yourself.

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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2010, 08:10:58 PM »
Leave the fighter hangars alone, or the kitty gets it!!!!  :furious :devil

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I say. Let the cat have it.  :D
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Re: Porking Hangers, Another View
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2010, 08:20:06 PM »
Interesting at this point of the thread. The one thing I have noticed of late is the culture of of our Chess piece country's. Lets look at the Nits they can't hold any realestate on any late war map Orange or Blue big or small map & when most countires are getting their tails handed to them they will move on to another arena & will dominate it.

Not the Nits though for the most part they will have both maps screwed up in both late war arenas & just seem to be waiting for the war to be won or Titanic Tuesday for a map reset or what ever gets there first.


Interestingly the Nits who cry the most about their hangers going down will do nothing to prevent it & seem to want to fly to the quickest fight no matter what. May be just a bunch of guys over there that have not matured in the game enough to do different things? Just as a side note I have noticed a lot of former Nits flying Bish of late. The rot seems to have set in on that part of the chess board for now & maybe with some time they will adapt as AKAK said.

Got to agree with AKAK on this matter adapt Nits or just stay on the BBS a moan about it. :bolt:


I am a Nit. The ony complaints I have are with the billion man horde warriors attacking lightly or undefended bases. And the side balancing is inadequate. IMO
I'd much prefer to see no ENY limit and perhaps a zone or air feild, based limit that would force aircraft to up from different bases and spread the war out. Just as a RL airport cant support an infinite amount of aircraft. I dont think they should be able to do so here either
Again, thats just my opinion
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