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Offline Guppy35

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2010, 11:37:03 PM »
Which later 190A are you talking about?  And how would it differ from the A8 that was there til the end?
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2010, 12:51:32 AM »
I think the A8 does just fine for mid war and late war set-ups. Too bad the noobs cant exploit the strengths of the A8. Instead they resort to the classic head-on, which is easily avoidable if you know what youre doing.
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2010, 09:11:27 AM »
The 190D-13 did see limited production.  But in fairness so did all late war Axis aircraft.  Their factories were being bombed around the clock and there was no way production could keep up with the Americans.  So any late war ride was in short supply.

Aces high has many things that had historically low numbers that are in game.  For example the ME 163 had only 16 kills in its entire operational life.  The TA152 had no more than 15 operational aircraft at any one time.  It is always the balance of what is historical and what is fun for game play.  I will leave it to the Aces high development crew; they have done a pretty good job so far.

The 190D-13 is by no way a super plane.  It loses 2 13mm machine guns and gains 1 20mm cannon.  There are advantages and disadvantages to both gun sets.  The engine is a later variant and has a little more horse power so the top end speed is a little faster.  I look at it as a tempest that can't turn and has 1 less cannon.

I feel it should not be developed in the place of other aircraft that will fill out the plane set in a more complete way, but in addition to.  The time spent making this variant would be a small fraction of what it would take to make a new aircraft from scratch.

It would be nice for the Axis guys to have a propeller driven perk plane and it makes a great Christmas present.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2010, 01:00:40 PM »
The 190D-13 did see limited production.  But in fairness so did all late war Axis aircraft.  Their factories were being bombed around the clock and there was no way production could keep up with the Americans.  So any late war ride was in short supply.

Aces high has many things that had historically low numbers that are in game.  For example the ME 163 had only 16 kills in its entire operational life.  The TA152 had no more than 15 operational aircraft at any one time.  It is always the balance of what is historical and what is fun for game play.  I will leave it to the Aces high development crew; they have done a pretty good job so far.


D-13, two saw service.  TA152, Me163, and P-47M all saw service in squadron strength.  IE: A bunch of them flying in combat together at the same time.

Squadron of two?



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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2010, 01:08:36 PM »
Squadron of two?

Haven't you ever played Ace Combat Zero?  :rofl
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2010, 05:58:15 PM »
My take on this wish is someone is not really wishing for a particular plane but rather something that has a bazillion cannons on it. 

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2010, 10:30:40 PM »
Take up a D9 and fly this skin. Instant D-13!

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2010, 06:59:31 PM »
My take on this wish is someone is not really wishing for a particular plane but rather something that has a bazillion cannons on it. 

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 It still has less guns then the P38 and Temp. I really don't see anything wrong with axis players wanting more rides. It would be nice to see a German bird on the Home Page after all the new allied additions. 

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2010, 07:08:56 PM »
All I'm saying is that the 190 series is one of the largest axis planesets.
besides the 190, the 109 and the 110 :lol as fighters, what do u really have in the German planeset?  seems the spits are represented top to bottom.  F4Us and P47's as well.  we have 2 versions of the C2 for crying out loud.  a few more 109/190s would be a nice addition IMO.  my $0.02. 
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2010, 07:17:49 PM »
besides the 190, the 109 and the 110 :lol as fighters, what do u really have in the German planeset?  seems the spits are represented top to bottom.  F4Us and P47's as well.  we have 2 versions of the C2 for crying out loud.  a few more 109/190s would be a nice addition IMO.  my $0.02. 


good point

seriously between the 109 and 190 as single engine fighters what other choices do we have, that is why their might be (or should be) maybe 10 different 109s or 190s because they only had those two pretty much (their were others but these seem to be the best ones). 

while on the other hand the americans have so many different single engine fighters, you really dont need as many per variant as you would with the LW.

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2010, 07:50:31 PM »
good point

seriously between the 109 and 190 as single engine fighters what other choices do we have, that is why their might be (or should be) maybe 10 different 109s or 190s because they only had those two pretty much (their were others but these seem to be the best ones). 

while on the other hand the americans have so many different single engine fighters, you really dont need as many per variant as you would with the LW.

LOL so be because the LW only had two kinds of fighters, we should limit American production rides in the game.  That's about the goofiest logic yet.

How dare those US types allow for more production types.

This is starting to drift towards a Luftwhine.  Let's not go there :)
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2010, 08:04:39 PM »
LOL so be because the LW only had two kinds of fighters, we should limit American production rides in the game.  That's about the goofiest logic yet.

How dare those US types allow for more production types.

This is starting to drift towards a Luftwhine.  Let's not go there :)

absolutely not what i was getting at.   the more planes, the better IMO.   sure, there should be way more variations of the American planeset.   But on the other hand, allow the other variations of the luftwaffe stuff too.   Germans didn't make so many different fighters because they made so many variations of the ones they had. (not advocating this as a good idea, for those who feel the need to flame everything, just sayin)
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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2010, 08:13:07 PM »
It still has less guns then the P38 and Temp.

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The lethality of the multiple cannon package on the FW 190D-13 far outstrips the lethality of 4x .50 caliber machine guns and a single 20mm.  Sure, the P-38 may have 'more guns' in number but not lethality.

This wish for the D-13 is solely based on someone that wants a late war plane with nothing but cannons. 

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Re: New aircraft to the plane set 190D-13
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2010, 09:25:54 PM »
:rofl

This wish for the D-13 is solely based on someone that wants a late war plane with nothing but cannons. 

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As is the basis for a majority of the "new" plane wishes on here.

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