Hewlett Packard

[fbWldcat]

I keep getting WINDOWS auto-updater windows asking me if I would like to continue with operations. The one where if you open something and Vista asks you if you would like to proceed. What is going on? Is it a virus or something?

[Krupinski]

How often?

[fbWldcat]

About once every two months to my knowledge, but one just popped up and reminded me. It seemed odd.

[Krupinski]

Your computer is an HP is it not? (Hewlett-Packard). I get these too, probably just an update.

[fbWldcat]

Yes, it is an HP. I was just cautious. I had never seen it before we got the new computer, our previous ones were Dells.

[Krupinski]

Dell and Hewlett-Packard two completely different companies. 

[Skuzzy]

Hewlette Packard is a virus.

[mipoikel]

Hewlette Packard is a virus.

Nonsense, dont generalize...

[Skuzzy]

Alright, here you go.

Hewlett Packard places more bloat for the user to deal with on thier computer than any other OEM computer in the marketplace.  They offer zero help in cleaning it up.   It interferes with many real-time applications.  It causes more support grief than any other computer manufacturer has created to date.

The applications/utilities they force on the consumer are ill chosen and generic.  H-P has no understanding of what it takes to conform thier computer systems to the environment they are going to be placed in.  They refuse to conform thier computers to the users needs/requirements unless you pay them an enormous amount of money for support.  In the OEM world, they are the worst about this.

Of all OEM computers, H-P are the worst ones I have to deal with, on a daily basis.  I feel for users who get suckered into buying them.  I always cringe when I get a call from someone who has one.  They are a nightmare to support.

Personally, I would do without a computer if my only choice was a Compaq or H-P computer.  I do not need the frustration in my life.

[fbWldcat]

Wow, thanks, Skuz. I'll remember to buy one next time. This HP isn't as reliable as my old Dells were, it seems. Some features are getting rustic and starting to become sad. (My term for suck).

[RTHolmes]

strange, Ive installed over 20 HP machines over the last 4 years and they dont seem to be any more badly bloated than other OEMs and if anything they seem to be getting better. did 2 workstations last week, only had to remove Office (trial ), Lightscribe (does anyone use this? ) and ?antivirus (cant remember what it was, unistalled completely tho). deleted the HP cloud/meeting/whatever stuff too, easy uninstall.

btw these machines (like all the other HP boxes Ive ordered in the last coupla years) came with XP Pro preinstalled and Win 7 installer disks

[USRanger]

Alright, here you go.

Hewlett Packard places more bloat for the user to deal with on thier computer than any other OEM computer in the marketplace.  They offer zero help in cleaning it up.   It interferes with many real-time applications.  It causes more support grief than any other computer manufacturer has created to date.

The applications/utilities they force on the consumer are ill chosen and generic.  H-P has no understanding of what it takes to conform thier computer systems to the environment they are going to be placed in.  They refuse to conform thier computers to the users needs/requirements unless you pay them an enormous amount of money for support.  In the OEM world, they are the worst about this.

Of all OEM computers, H-P are the worst ones I have to deal with, on a daily basis.  I feel for users who get suckered into buying them.  I always cringe when I get a call from someone who has one.  They are a nightmare to support.

Personally, I would do without a computer if my only choice was a Compaq or H-P computer.  I do not need the frustration in my life.

Other than that though, they are ok.

[mipoikel]

When we talk about HP products, There is a huge difference between consumer and business products. I think Skuzzy is talking about consumer PCs and laptops? right?

Whatever, you can allways install clean windows (or linux) to HP computer without extra software.

I have 10 years experience of selling and supporting HP products, PC:s, workstations, laptos, printers,  servers, storage and network products (99.99% of them business products) and they have been really reliable systems over the years.

[Krupinski]

Other than HP, what other brands aren't as "congested"?   

[RTHolmes]

When we talk about HP products, There is a huge difference between consumer and business products. I think Skuzzy is talking about consumer PCs and laptops? right?

aww ok, ive only got one consumer HP Win 7 box sitting here, havent had a chance to look at it yet. the business machines are great, only failures we've had have been some older AMD mobos, the intel ones have been rock solid. cheap nextday onsite warranties too