Force feedback is causing massive drop in FPS! (this isn't a troll)

[Kazaa]

So I was trying out my new MSFFB2 and I found when blipping the trigger my FPS drops like a brick. I avarage around 150FPS when FFB isn't active.

FFB active: blip the trigger and I get 30-40FPS


FFB not active: blip the trigger and only a small drop in FPS.


Also note that when I activate FFB and sit on the runway I loose around 40-50FPS.

All I have to say is WTF and does anyone else have this problem?

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/2/2010, 17:03:16
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[Kazaa]

Ok it doesn't just happen when I fire, any force feedback effect has the same massive frame rate drop.

[pervert]

Ok it doesn't just happen when I fire, any force feedback effect has the same massive frame rate drop.

I loled a bit your worst frame rate still beats my very highest by 10 

Gonna plug mine in here and have a look at my frame rates as well bro. Last patch done something to the MS FF2 I have no idea what.

[pervert]

What color is the light on your stick btw?

[Kazaa]

Red, don't tell me the stick was sold to me fubard.

[pervert]

Red, don't tell me the stick was sold to me fubard.

Nah I can just remember some being green but I'm not sure if thats just the american version   mines red.

From start up if I lay the stick to one side without touching it and boot up aces high it will start to centre itself by itself in a twitchy fashion. In game I have NO weapons effects no matter how much  put the FF up by, I have got stall buffet.

The patch has seriously fubared something  

My FPS was unaffected but then again I'm using crappy on board graphics of a sony laptop m8

[Kazaa]

The last patch was a joke, I found so many bugs.

[pervert]

Well found an old AH setup and installed the old version AH2160 tested it and everything works hunky dory with the stick 

[Kazaa]

I tested FFB in other games, it doesn't affect my frame rate...

[715]

I tested (offline) with my MS SW FFB2 (green light).  While the fps drop when firing the guns (in my case from 85 down to as little as 50) the FFB makes no difference; i.e. the drop is exactly the same with the FFB on or off.  (When on, I had gun effects on for testing).  I presume, in my case, the drop is from the muzzle flash rendering.

I have noticed a different bug: the trim slider has no effect on centering stiffness for ack guns or vehicle steering and the force is very high, perhaps max.  However, if you turn FFB off then turn it back on, the force drops to what it used to be and it works normally.

[Kazaa]

I also notice, and I'm not sure if this is a bug or limitation of the hardware so please bare with me here. All my force feedback effects fail when I roll the plane left or right, or pull any diagonal combination on the stick. The effects work fine alone the vertical axis or when the stick is centered.

If you want to test it yourself just fire and roll the plane, or fire and roll while pulling up. Absolutely nothing.

[Kazaa]

Another thing I've noticed: Every time I start the game up my stick is really stiff, I have to uncheck and recheck the FFB effect before It goes back to normal.

[Kazaa]

I also notice, and I'm not sure if this is a bug or limitation of the hardware so please bare with me here. All my force feedback effects fail when I roll the plane left or right, or pull any diagonal combination on the stick. The effects work fine alone the vertical axis or when the stick is centered.

If you want to test it yourself just fire and roll the plane, or fire and roll while pulling up. Absolutely nothing.

I tested my stick in another game, the above isn't limited in anyway by the hardware but rather the FFB code used in game.

[Bruv119]

I believe the red light ones were later versions.  I used to have the greeny/yellow light.

[Kazaa]

Another bug found.

Each plane has a different level of force feedback when guns are fired. For example: La7 has almost none, P47 has crazy amount.