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Offline AAJagerX

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2010, 03:05:38 PM »
Ya know, there was never a need to apologize.  :salute  I tend to see things and present my view of them from different aspects than other people. In most cases when I appear to be flaming someone or harsh, it's generally part good natured ribbing and part "you can't be serious".

In the case of this keyboard issue, I looked at the keyboard mapping layout in AH and it is based off a standard 101 key keyboard, no extraneous keys are included in the GUI nor anywhere in the settings files. That means the key is not even recognized in AH as having a function. To do anything with it in AH, would be a bit more complex than just a simple remap setting like the rest of the keys.

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"If posting while angry, re-read your post, count to ten, then delete said post.  Try again after a cool-off period."

I'm unsure of what it'd take to re-write the keyboard format in AH (I'm a network guy), but I do think that there should be a way to disable it.  I know that it's low priority, and fairly insignificant.  I just HATE that button.

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2010, 03:08:08 PM »
It's not detrimental to game play at all, except in your mind.


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So, you're saying that it's not detrimental to the game experience when you lawn dart because a button was pressed accidentally?  The win button serves no purpose in game.  It's redundant at best, flippin stupid at worst. 
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2010, 03:13:54 PM »
Or you could take a slightly different hardware approach.

Pop off the left windows key, glue it so it can't depress, wait till the glue hardens, replace the key.

As noted above you can still control esc to get the same function, or use the right win key which for some reason doesn't seem to be as bad.

Any way you want to do it, its on your hardware, so its your responsibility.
No point in getting angry about it, or expecting someone else to fix it.

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2010, 03:18:21 PM »
Or you could take a slightly different hardware approach.

Pop off the left windows key, glue it so it can't depress, wait till the glue hardens, replace the key.

As noted above you can still control esc to get the same function, or use the right win key which for some reason doesn't seem to be as bad.

Any way you want to do it, its on your hardware, so its your responsibility.
No point in getting angry about it, or expecting someone else to fix it.


That's actually the best solution I've heard. 
Now the hardware part of it...  Many games take various keyboard configurations into account.  It's just like AH recognizing the type of flightstick you have hooked up. 
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2010, 04:18:20 PM »
So, you're saying that it's not detrimental to the game experience when you lawn dart because a button was pressed accidentally?  The win button serves no purpose in game.  It's redundant at best, flippin stupid at worst. 

It's inconvenient when it happens but it is in no way the responsibility of HTC to correct it.  It is not a design or function within Aces High, it is a design feature in the OS.  Other players (including myself) have already posted numerous ways of disabling the Windows key that you can do right now instead of waiting for HTC to decide whether or not they want to add a feature to disable something in the OS that they are not responsible for.

I decided to go the route of using a Logitech G15 keyboard that has a function to enable or disable the Windows key on the fly, some others have opted for the registry method and some the more extreme method of removing the key.  Since you already removed the key from the keyboard it really isn't a problem anymore is it?

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2010, 04:26:36 PM »
It's inconvenient when it happens but it is in no way the responsibility of HTC to correct it.  It is not a design or function within Aces High, it is a design feature in the OS.  Other players (including myself) have already posted numerous ways of disabling the Windows key that you can do right now instead of waiting for HTC to decide whether or not they want to add a feature to disable something in the OS that they are not responsible for.

I decided to go the route of using a Logitech G15 keyboard that has a function to enable or disable the Windows key on the fly, some others have opted for the registry method and some the more extreme method of removing the key.  Since you already removed the key from the keyboard it really isn't a problem anymore is it?

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Not for me, no.  I'm sure someone will experience the same frustration somewhere down the road though.  All in all, wouldn't it be better for it to be an option that can be disabled? 
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2010, 05:07:00 PM »
So you are NOT using a stick and throttel arrangment which you can map the key or combination you miss and hit the windows key to either of those devices?

By the physical nature of an AirCombat SIM that's the most elegant personal solution. Unless this is really happening when you are typing text or using Ctrl or Alt in combination with another key for something else. But then all those functions except texting can be mapped to your controllers. I suspect that's HiTechs COADing solution to this problem. I use CH products so I only touch the keyboard for texting and if I need to shell out to the desktop with the "Windows Key".

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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2010, 05:44:30 PM »
Not for me, no.  I'm sure someone will experience the same frustration somewhere down the road though.  All in all, wouldn't it be better for it to be an option that can be disabled? 

No, it's a waste of time and resources for HTC to fix something that isn't their responsibility.  In fact, I haven't even seen one single game that even has an option like this.


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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2010, 08:44:15 PM »
No, it's a waste of time and resources for HTC to fix something that isn't their responsibility.  In fact, I haven't even seen one single game that even has an option like this.


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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2010, 08:45:48 PM »
So you are NOT using a stick and throttel arrangment which you can map the key or combination you miss and hit the windows key to either of those devices?

By the physical nature of an AirCombat SIM that's the most elegant personal solution. Unless this is really happening when you are typing text or using Ctrl or Alt in combination with another key for something else. But then all those functions except texting can be mapped to your controllers. I suspect that's HiTechs COADing solution to this problem. I use CH products so I only touch the keyboard for texting and if I need to shell out to the desktop with the "Windows Key".

Henry Ford said give them any color as long as it's Black. You must be related to that grand old contrarian.

My X-52 is fully mapped.  I don't have any more buttons that would fit that bill.  Henry ford was an innovator and a savvy businessman, so thank you.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2010, 08:46:36 PM »
No, it's a waste of time and resources for HTC to fix something that isn't their responsibility.  In fact, I haven't even seen one single game that even has an option like this.


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That's your opinion and that's fine.  As far as you telling me what HTC thinks is a waste of time...  Weak.
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2010, 09:11:22 PM »
Buy a stick and throttle and you'll never have to mess with the keyboard again.  :aok


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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2010, 09:14:16 PM »
My X-52 is fully mapped.  I don't have any more buttons that would fit that bill.  Henry ford was an innovator and a savvy businessman, so thank you.
Fully mapped in all 3 modes and you still have to use the keyboard? 
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2010, 09:18:24 PM »
Buy a stick and throttle and you'll never have to mess with the keyboard again.  :aok


For the most part anyway.

I've got an X-52.  Not great, but it works.  The situation in question happened while typing a message, so there's really no way around that one (aside from typing more accurately).  

My situation is fixed, as I have removed the button.  I'll be looking into different keyboards soon so I won't have to deal with it at all.  BTW Uptown, how'd ya like that storm this evening?  Nasty winds huh?
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Re: Windows button.
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2010, 09:19:17 PM »
Fully mapped in all 3 modes and you still have to use the keyboard? 

For one reason or another I always forget that there's multiple modes.  Thanks for the reminder.
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