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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2010, 09:40:51 PM »
This has come up before and Hitech has already said it will never happen.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2010, 09:41:16 PM »
If any player had any brains, he could make a macro and defeat any afk spotting software they could put in place.

No point in this request.

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Yep.  On my mouse I can actually run timed scripts that I could set up with the simple .move command to move me around the map to get around the auto-kicker.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2010, 07:26:42 AM »
Your asking Hitech to alienate his own customers.

Isn't going to happen any time soon.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2010, 07:32:11 AM »
Your asking Hitech to alienate his own customers.
Isn't going to happen any time soon.

I hope this slips under HT's radar...  :noid    I really think the CAPS do a pretty good job at alienating a lot of his customers.. so there is a precedent   :bolt:
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2010, 07:40:52 AM »
Your asking Hitech to alienate his own customers.
Isn't going to happen any time soon.
No, I am not asking Hitech to alienate his customers.  I made a simple wish in the BB section for wishes, I  asked that HTC address something that effects game play.   People that stay in an arena while at work or sleeping for extended periods of time affect the calculations  of ENY and CAPs.  I’d like to see that corrected.  The calculations when performed is skewed  and not accurate.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2010, 07:58:20 AM »
I agree that arena caps are an issue.  From the sounds of it, even more so for the euro players.  But, there has to be a better way to remedy the problem.  If the game were free, I could understand being booted for being idle.  However, we pay our $15 a month.  I'm just not sure that booting a paying customer is the answer.

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2010, 07:59:06 AM »
Yep.  On my mouse I can actually run timed scripts that I could set up with the simple .move command to move me around the map to get around the auto-kicker.
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Yes you can do that, but to what purpose?  Why  would you do that ?  And by doing that,  with the knowledge that it effects ENY and CAP calculations, that you might adding to a denial of service to other customers of HiTech,  that do not stay singed on in a CAPed arena , why would you do that?   Do you want to help make this gaming experience better for everyone?
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2010, 08:04:49 AM »
I agree that arena caps are an issue.  From the sounds of it, even more so for the euro players.  But, there has to be a better way to remedy the problem.  If the game were free, I could understand being booted for being idle.  However, we pay our $15 a month.  I'm just not sure that booting a paying customer is the answer.

They are not booted while playing the game.  It's the player that is in the tower while at work, or sleeping.  The player that is not active in the arena that they are in.  They effect two things, ENY values and CAPs.  They cause the caculations for these two items to be skewed.  Allowing them to remain in a game arean AFK for hours on end is unfair to other paying customers.  Just boot them from the arena, They can remain signed on ,  just not takeing a slot in an arean.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2010, 08:20:18 AM »
I absolutely see your point Trav.  I don't ever leave the game on overnight etc.  But, I do go afk to run to the store or to pick up the kids, from time to time.  To be honest, I do this to avoid having to fight with the arena cap when I return.  Maybe a compromise could be the answer.  Idle for two hours or so.  I'm not sure that HTC would ever do this.  We're probably just wasting our breath.  But, it's an idea.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2010, 11:23:31 AM »
And why is that? Should be common sense to log out of an arena if you don't know how long you're going to be afk, but there are people...

Hello Gyrene,

First let me say that I do not participate in the 24 non-stop login. I do login an hour or so early to beat the caps, and at times have to go AFK for whatever reason for who knows how long.  I, like you and everyone else pay for 24/7 access to this game.  I already know Hitech's feelings on this, and I agree.  Something like this will alienate more customers than those customers that will actually be helped.  It really comes down to arena caps, and not the X amount of people who are AFK in an arena.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2010, 11:39:53 AM »
Hello Gyrene,

First let me say that I do not participate in the 24 non-stop login. I do login an hour or so early to beat the caps, and at times have to go AFK for whatever reason for who knows how long.  I, like you and everyone else pay for 24/7 access to this game.  I already know Hitech's feelings on this, and I agree.  Something like this will alienate more customers than those customers that will actually be helped.  It really comes down to arena caps, and not the X amount of people who are AFK in an arena.

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My original request is not to boot people from the game, just the arena slot they are holding .
The are moved to the clipboard with all of the arenas there for them to chose from. They are still connected to AH and still have the 7/24 service provided.    I’m just asking that these persistent AFK players be removed from the calculations for ENY and CAP so that the calculations are accurate.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2010, 12:06:09 PM »
My original request is not to boot people from the game, just the arena slot they are holding .
The are moved to the clipboard with all of the arenas there for them to chose from. They are still connected to AH and still have the 7/24 service provided.    I’m just asking that these persistent AFK players be removed from the calculations for ENY and CAP so that the calculations are accurate.


Noted.  I missed your clarification a few posts down.  I have always felt that not in flight, then not in ENY.  I thought it was set up this way?  As far as CAPS I see no need to change for this reason. 

Lusche is ENY figured on people in flight or total people in a country?
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2010, 12:11:40 PM »
Lusche is ENY figured on people in flight or total people in a country?

Total people in a country.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2010, 12:18:27 PM »
Noted.  I missed your clarification a few posts down.  I have always felt that not in flight, then not in ENY.  I thought it was set up this way?  As far as CAPS I see no need to change for this reason. 

Lusche is ENY figured on people in flight or total people in a country?

My understanding is that ENY is based on total in country.  I’d be interested in understanding why you would not want CAPS to be calculated accurately.  CAPS  are currently based on total number of people in an arena, even if many of the  people are persistently AFK.  That inaccurate calculation could  block others from being able to join their squad and creates problems with ENY accuracy.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2010, 12:21:58 PM »
Yes you can do that, but to what purpose?  Why  would you do that ?  

To get around the auto-kicker would be the reason.  Not saying that I would because if I find that I'm going to be AFK more than 10 minutes I will log off.  Just pointing out that it is very easy to circumvent such systems.


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And by doing that,  with the knowledge that it effects ENY and CAP calculations, that you might adding to a denial of service to other customers of HiTech,  that do not stay singed on in a CAPed arena , why would you do that?   Do you want to help make this gaming experience better for everyone?


It wouldn't be a denial of service because I am not preventing anyone from logging into the game.  Also, as a paying customer I too have the right to be online as long as I want even if it's spent sitting in the tower while AFK.

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