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Offline Traveler

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2010, 03:56:47 PM »
Traveler you're losing ground and
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On initial inspection it sounded like a good idea to me.  I still think staying online when you have no intention of playing is lame but people do have the right to burn the bandwith they are paying for *shrug*.  My position changed upon seeing this Chalenge, from what I know of him, isn't in the habit of talking out his posterior and saying Hitech said something he did not say on his boards would, quite possibly, be the dumbest thing I've ever see happen on line.
Just take it on faith man.  I know it's a pain not being able to get into the arena you want to but it isn't going to change apparently. 

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Again, this is not about CAPS.  This is a wish that the calculation used to calculate ENY and CAPs be corrected to account for Persistent AFK.   I am not asking for the CAPS to be removed that is not what this wish is about.  Can I make it any more clear.   Add more CAPS I don’t care about CAPS.  This Wish is to make the calculation that currently included people that are persistently AFK there for the results are skewed.  As a result, you are on occasion prevented from your desired because the ENY is not correctly calculated.   Also because of players that remain persistently afk and never log off. The CAPS prevent a player from entering the arena they wish to use because the CAPS number is counting presently AFK players in the calculation.  I’m just asking that the persistent AFK player be moved to the lobby.  They are still connected to the game.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2010, 02:07:11 PM »
Statistically speaking, the number of people who are afk for long periods of time is going to be nearly identical between countries.
On what fact based information do you base that statement?
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2010, 09:13:04 PM »
On what fact based information do you base that statement?


Elementary statistics and common sense.  There is nothing that categorizes someone a Bishop, Knight or Rook,  there are short term "characteristics" of certain countries because of the influential players in the arena, but over all, we're all the same.  So, it doesn't take a whole lot of thinking to realize that there is nothing about a particular country that encourages or predisposes someone to be a sleeper.  So if 3% of players sleep, it's common sense that those numbers will generally be about 1% per country.  Yes, there will be fluctuation, but fluctuation that will change constantly.

There really isn't too much more to say about all this.  That poor poor dead horse.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2010, 08:44:21 PM »
LoL I'm impatient and caps are crap...sorry  :D

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2010, 08:49:08 PM »
LoL I'm impatient and caps are crap...sorry  :D

Looks like flight17 was tattling on you too.  :rofl
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2010, 09:16:34 PM »
What country do you fly for Traveler?
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #66 on: August 24, 2010, 08:17:04 AM »
What country do you fly for Traveler?

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2010, 08:52:34 AM »
Ummmm.............

Limiting how long I can be logged into an arena?

Controlling the amount of time I am logged on, regardless if I pay for unlimited time or not?

I guess your next question is if you can go and step on HiTech's johnson, because that is what he would be doing.

How about the ones that don't get booted for being afk because they are actually playing?  Should they have to pay more for using more bandwidth?

It takes me a long time to refill my coffee mug sometimes (it's a BIG coffee mug)

It takes a while to refill the beer stein, too.  (it's a BIG stein)

Sometimes I just wanna rub one out.  That takes a while, too (it's a BIG.... nevermind)
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2010, 09:52:48 AM »
Ummmm.............

Limiting how long I can be logged into an arena?

That was never the request, intent or wish.  If you believe that, you are misinformed.
Controlling the amount of time I am logged on, regardless if I pay for unlimited time or not?
Again, if you believe that you are misinformed.  The request was to place the persistent AFK into the lobby so that their numbers did not skew the calculation of ENY and CAP’s.

How about the ones that don't get booted for being afk because they are actually playing?  Should they have to pay more for using more bandwidth?
No one is booted from the game, just placed in the Lobby after it is determined that they are in a persistent state of AFK.
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It takes a while to refill the beer stein, too.  (it's a BIG stein)
Your game play would not be effected unless you reached a point of being detected as being in a persistent state of AFK.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2010, 10:08:30 AM »
That was never the request, intent or wish.  If you believe that, you are misinformed.Again, if you believe that you are misinformed.  The request was to place the persistent AFK into the lobby so that their numbers did not skew the calculation of ENY and CAP’s.
No one is booted from the game, just placed in the Lobby after it is determined that they are in a persistent state of AFK.Your game play would not be effected unless you reached a point of being detected as being in a persistent state of AFK.

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What is a "persistent" state of afk?

Who determines it?

Who enforces it?

Thank you, Mr. Clean.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2010, 10:11:58 AM »
That was never the request, intent or wish.  If you believe that, you are misinformed.Again, if you believe that you are misinformed.  The request was to place the persistent AFK into the lobby so that their numbers did not skew the calculation of ENY and CAP’s.

Really?

Beliallink is not the only player that does this and HTC needs to boot any player that has a spot tied up in any arena and is not present.   It has to be possible to know if there has been no movement or activity from a player or that player has been tower bound for more than 20 minutes.   They should be bounced out of the arena.


Certainly sounds like controlling what I pay for without  my choice as a paying customer

No one is booted from the game, just placed in the Lobby after it is determined that they are in a persistent state of AFK.Your game play would not be effected unless you reached a point of being detected as being in a persistent state of AFK.

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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2010, 10:21:46 AM »
What is a "persistent" state of afk?
People who log on, play, tower out and go to bed, go to work, are away for 12 to 18 hours before returning. 

Who determines it?
The current game environment tracks many different statistics I’m sure it would be capable to identify a player that has not moved or done anything within the game environment for over a two hour period.
Who enforces it?
HTC ,  The enforcement would only be moving that player to the lobby.  They would still be connected.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2010, 10:25:48 AM »
Really?

Certainly sounds like controlling what I pay for without  my choice as a paying customer


Then you must really hate CAPs and ENY.  Moving the persistent AFK to the lobby will make those calculations more accurate.
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2010, 10:40:00 AM »
People who log on, play, tower out and go to bed, go to work, are away for 12 to 18 hours before returning. 

I think the word you are fishing for here is habitual and not persistent, besides, what if they were in the bathroom and just really constipated?

The current game environment tracks many different statistics I’m sure it would be capable to identify a player that has not moved or done anything within the game environment for over a two hour period.   

Nice!  So, you are making that choice?  What prompted you to decide that 2 hours was too much?


HTC ,  The enforcement would only be moving that player to the lobby.  They would still be connected.


Like they do not do enough babysitting?    I highly doubt that they will booting any paying customers from any arena as long as the $ keeps flowing, sorry about your luck.

Thanks for playing 
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Re: remove absent player from arena.
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2010, 10:50:59 AM »
Then you must really hate CAPs and ENY.  Moving the persistent AFK to the lobby will make those calculations more accurate.

Neither really bothers me.

ENY?  What is this ENY I keep hearing about?  I fly German iron and the occasional Stromboli.  I have yet to understand this ENY thing that everyone whines about.  If it becomes an issue, doesn't that mean one is on the side with higher numbers and should switch to balance game play?

Arena caps?  Squad night is on Tuesday.  Never an issue to fly with squaddies.


Actually, a better solution would be to find another hobby, go marvel at the glowing orange orb in the sky, kick the dog, give it to the old lady, read a book.....    anything but come in here and whine about it.
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