Not helping when you do this

[cactuskooler]

Unless it's a squadling, I don't ask if a friendly needs help in a 1v1. I'll jump in if they ask me, but otherwise I just leave them be. They can learn to fight 1v1 or die trying.

So who wants to be my wingman this afternoon?

[Muzzy]

Honestly, getting cut out of a kill a bunch of times is not nearly as annoying as the one time someone said "Muzzy, do you need help with that P47?" 

The one that was sneaking up on my six?  Yeah. Could use some help with that....*bam*

Oh, someone left donuts in the Tower.

I'll take a bad check six over no check six any day.  And I'd rather get help on a kill than get killed because my countryman was trying to be polite.  You have permission to cut in.  Just let me know you're coming in advance so I can have the table set for you.

[CAP1]

Honestly, getting cut out of a kill a bunch of times is not nearly as annoying as the one time someone said "Muzzy, do you need help with that P47?" 

The one that was sneaking up on my six?  Yeah. Could use some help with that....*bam*

Oh, someone left donuts in the Tower.

I'll take a bad check six over no check six any day.  And I'd rather get help on a kill than get killed because my countryman was trying to be polite.  You have permission to cut in.  Just let me know you're coming in advance so I can have the table set for you.

wanna bet?

[TW9]

if i'm fighting in 10-3 odds, i'm usually one of the 3

sorry cap. I was replying to the poster. not you.   

[CAP1]

sorry cap. I was replying to the poster. not you.   

no problem sir. 

[bagrat]

One thing I always have and will do is "ask if someone is ok or needs help", with EVERY 1 vs 1 I come across.   Some say "If you can stay near and if I lose the adv., come on in".    Most say, "Come on in".   I don't barge into 1 vs 1's as I enjoy them.

Another thing, I banged the hell out of DH's 109.   I noticed him hit the deck and called him a runner as joke.   He told me "I'm winchester".   I gave him a free pass to rtb.   I just don't NEED kills like that, but I notice more and more do need that kill.  

Bottom line, some are still courteous.  

thats cool, personally if someone engages in a fight with me they better have the means to finish it. As i have been in fights with BnZer's who after 10 mins of missed attempts I finally get to equal advantage and now they wanna run away and say "RTB Fuel", too bad buddy you should have engaged istead of burning all your fuel fighting timid.

or the guy who engages in a fight then when they lose advantage want to say "oh im gonna go land now dont be lame an vulch me on landing", once again just because you are done fighting doesnt mean i am, and your base is not a"home free area"

[Tordon22]

Unless it's a squadling, I don't ask if a friendly needs help in a 1v1. I'll jump in if they ask me, but otherwise I just leave them be. They can learn to fight 1v1 or die trying.

So who wants to be my wingman this afternoon?

I do, I do!

[oTRALFZo]

Situations are pretty easy to judge if you have been playing a while.
There are still people that play and understand that its not about sending you to the tower by any means necesary. You should always be courtious and ask first before diving into a target that a freindly is engaging.
Recently I was fighting a squaddie just off a freindly base that had many freindlies take off and just asked politley that noone butt in. Its great fun and everyone respected my wishes and flew by without interupting.
You get in situations where you do ask and the guy doesnt answer back, so its best you just stay out until the freindly is shot down or you see the red guy is trying to run and get a ditch etc.

Never gripe that you have been picked. Remember there are lots that use wingmen tactics and if you are on my wingman's 6..better be sure Im gonna swoop in to help him as I expect it from him.  You choose your own fight. If you see more than one red guy, expect to get smacked around and dodge multiple targets. Getting picked is just simply bad SA on your part, you shouldve been smarter.

[Muzzy]

In a 1v1 situation I try to give a courtesy check if nothing else. But in a furball situation with multiple bandits it's really hard to look at the situation and say "gee, is this really fair to them?"

Last night an enemy pilot complained to me about diving into a 2v1 situation (he was the 1) and shooting him down. Really...in the MA...after he'd already gotten me more times than I'd care to count.  Anyone who doesn't expect to be overwhelmed by numbers in the MA on occasion is really kind of a whiner in my occasionally humble opinion.  I'm of the belief that the MA should be flown as close to wartime conditions as possible. If you want sportsmanship, fly in the DA.

As far as exiting the fight goes, it may be frustrating for the opponent but exiting a fight when the odds are not in your favor is just common sense. Besides, exiting is a skill in and of itself, as is trying to get into a vulched field. If I'm hit, low on fuel or at a serious numerical or energy disadvantage...well I ain't afraid to run from you.  Besides, it only works about half the time.

[Blooz]

Want an uninterrupted 1 vs. 1 fight?  Go to the DA.

In the MA, expect a 1 vs. 1 to become a 2 vs. 0 at any second.







You're welcome!

[Ghastly]

Want an uninterrupted 1 vs. 1 fight?  Go to the DA.

In the MA, expect a 1 vs. 1 to become a 2 vs. 0 at any second.

And while I don't expect anyone to stay out of the fight I'm losing, or call my six for me, or clear my six, I appreciate it when they do, and I try to more often than not do the same.

<S>

[CAP1]

And while I don't expect anyone to stay out of the fight I'm losing, or call my six for me, or clear my six, I appreciate it when they do, and I try to more often than not do the same.

<S>

+1

[maus92]

I don't mind somebody jumping in to help me run somebody down, just don't get in front of my guns and cause a killshoot.

[redcatcherb412]

One thing I always have and will do is "ask if someone is ok or needs help", with EVERY 1 vs 1 I come across.   Some say "If you can stay near and if I lose the adv., come on in".    Most say, "Come on in".   I don't barge into 1 vs 1's as I enjoy them.

Another thing, I banged the hell out of DH's 109.   I noticed him hit the deck and called him a runner as joke.   He told me "I'm winchester".   I gave him a free pass to rtb.   I just don't NEED kills like that, but I notice more and more do need that kill.   

Bottom line, some are still courteous. 

I was dead stick, oil all over the windscreen and fought to a good landing smoking and praying. Just as I came to a stop about to end sortie, a plane blew me away.  I considered it non-courteous and muttered under my breath, but just upped another plane.  I rarely fly because I suck so badly at it, but even in GV's I see a lot of smoking GV's limping, smoking back to base and the guys give them a pass.   Guess it just depends on the circumstance and the player.  But as some say, getting another cartoon plane up takes about 2 seconds.

[CAP1]

I don't mind somebody jumping in to help me run somebody down, just don't get in front of my guns and cause a killshoot.

often, i'll drop from alt, and fire bb's at the runner....just to force him to turn for the guy already chasing him........