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Offline 2bighorn

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2010, 01:17:21 PM »
Point is this:  I don't care about F3 in there since I do not DA.  I was just voicing my opinion that of all the things in the game to harp on this one feature just isn't important, to me. 

Why waste calories on something you don't care about? Very menopausal of you.

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2010, 01:18:11 PM »
Who is crying?


The main factor is that the DA is the only place we can go to settle scores and have fair competitions. That in itself should be a good reason to limit the f3 view. It's crazy, the one palce we can go to have a pure 1on1 fight and we can't now even be sure who is 'gaming the game' or not.

The SDL compete in the DA, the Tri-Annual Dueling league competes in there.....these are events that would hopefully not attract someone who wont play fair, but still the fact remains that F3 is available.


PS: to those who say it makes no difference, try fighting in a 109k4 and drawing a high-G lead for a 400yrd shot from inside the cockpit. Or try fighting in anything and geussing where they will pop up from under your nose during your high scissor, instead of tracking them all the way from externals. It makes no difference to the furballing but for high level dueling, it is a big factor.

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Shut it Bat!!!  He is a staff member and member of the JG54.  He has obviusly better himself by using the F3 mode so quit crying already!
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2010, 01:20:54 PM »
Why waste calories on something you don't care about? Very menopausal of you.

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2010, 01:22:49 PM »
you see any people dueling on the lake?

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You see any people getting advanced training on the lake?

me.

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Well if it were named after my personal experiences in the Lake, I would call the arena "Tempest/F4U-4 Avoidance Arena" or "Brewster/Spitfire/A6M Assault Arena". I think "Dueling Arena" will have to do.
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2010, 01:31:15 PM »
Why waste calories on something you don't care about? Very menopausal of you.
I, just exactly like you, have nothing better to do....obviously.  Why else would we be here now?

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2010, 02:05:22 PM »
One time I accused batfinkv of shooting me using F3 mode but then I just realized that he is jedi knight.

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2010, 02:05:26 PM »
Well if so many people enjoy it at the lake fair enough, let them keep it.

 S! to everyone who flies inside the plane in the DA lake. Well done, you are in the top 5%.


edit: lol Grizz, you didnt accuse me, you brought up the subject due to a scissors snapshot along time ago. Seems since then you learnt to setup the best 30mm solutions of anyone in the game  :salute
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2010, 02:14:23 PM »
Till i saw this thread, i thought that only the ta had F3 available in all aircraft........
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2010, 02:20:11 PM »
I very seldom go to the DA because of F-3 mode. I see guys in peck ride they can't afford in the MA spraying the sky with cannon like a garden hose from F-3 mode. The DA what it is.

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2010, 02:30:47 PM »
Well if so many people enjoy it at the lake fair enough, let them keep it.


Hmmmmm, where are they?  All I saw in this thread is one guy.  Perfect solution would be if it was possible to have it on in some fields and off in others.  Or two two DAs?  One with only the lake and one with dueling fields.  That will also take the temptation of the llake guys to come mess with 1 vs 1 fights.

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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2010, 02:33:58 PM »
We are all glad you can do that Ack.  I still fail to see any relation to what you can do, what you just described, and what I am talking about.  A big part of a duel, especially when e is lost is to hide under your opponents plane while you are rolling.  When you go back and look at a film and you see said opponent - repeatedly - lining up perfectly (he cant see you under his plane)  while you are changing angles to avoid even a lucky shot, and then he follows with a 2 second perfectly timed burst, something is up.  Not talking about raising gun sites etc.


If fly the K4 quite a bit, and as anyone who flys that thing can attest to, you cannon falls straight out of the nose.

The Majority of my shots are made when I have no vis on the plane I'm aiming at.  It's all a matter of spacial awareness and being able to visualize what you think the other plane is going to do.

Good pilots are looking at you when you're working on shooting them, and you'll see a 90 degree roll mess up a lot of your shots.

Perhaps they're not lining up perfectly, you're just not doing enough to spoil their shot.
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2010, 03:14:38 PM »
My approach to over the nose shots: Fire and forget... about hitting anything.
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2010, 04:01:00 PM »
If fly the K4 quite a bit, and as anyone who flys that thing can attest to, you cannon falls straight out of the nose.

The Majority of my shots are made when I have no vis on the plane I'm aiming at.  It's all a matter of spacial awareness and being able to visualize what you think the other plane is going to do.

Good pilots are looking at you when you're working on shooting them, and you'll see a 90 degree roll mess up a lot of your shots.

Perhaps they're not lining up perfectly, you're just not doing enough to spoil their shot.

Maybe, but it is irrelevant.  This thread is not about how good some maybe in calculating a shot or how bad I may be avoiding it.  It is about F3 mode in a place called the dueling arena.   Do you think it adds anything to the game?  I think it does not.  Why not turn on the calculating sights also and maybe some power ups in the air to fi my plane when I get shot up?

It gives the other guy an unfair advantage.  Not only assisting with shots, but being able to locate you when you are hiding under his plane.
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2010, 05:57:08 PM »
F3 has always been in the DA since i've been playing AH.


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really? guess u've been playing for about 3 years

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Yeah, confused it with the CM God Eye mode.

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sorry caught a case of ADD after page 2
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Re: DA and F3 mode
« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2010, 07:00:20 PM »
Just my opinion so its worth what you paid for it....F3 is an advantage of immeasurable proportion.  Not that people cannot make those shots internally, its that you don't ever miss externally once you get good at it AND it allows you to see a 180 degree view, unimpeded around you...SA on steriods.

I flew the first 1.5 years in the DA and for about 8 months used F3 without fail.  HUGE difference guys...once you get used to it shots fired are shots hit....guaranteed with any practice at all.

Lastly, my first DAY in the game, GhostH was the trainer in the TA and he was trying his best to help me get an F4U-4 OFF THE GROUND...(wrecked it on takeoff 21 times in a row...my 8 year old son counted them outloud and then proceeded to tell me to listen to the man in the computer because you're not good at this Daddy) and when I finally did he advised me strenuously NOT to go to the DA or the MA until I got used to the flying because it is humiliating to get shot down repeatedly...he was right so I switched to F3 after listening to some guys talk about it.  My point is that I would have been MUCH better off without F3 as a training tool...I had to re-acclimate myself to everything once I decided I wanted to fly a sim instead of play Galaga.

I made some real good buddies in the DA...they fly their way which is arcade gamey to me.  I don't know any WW II pilots that flew 200 feet behind their plane on a tether of some sort with complete control over their a/c...lol.  It should go because new folks find their way into that arena and learn the game wrong.  If I hadn't listened honestly to Sunbat, Hlbly, Dodger and MugZ I would still be in there or off the game...honest truth.

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