Aces High Plane Preview: Mosquito B.XVI

[Lusche]

I hit 49k with B17s already without rearm (and obviously snailman more). The point of this is sortie count and damage. If you take a formation you lose drones when you rearm so a formation cannot score higher. A single Lanc could but it takes more time to climb and involves more risk (something not even SHawk is going to endure) but rearms will be required which involve more time and more risk still. Arado formations are okay for CV killing and thats about it.

To further hijack this thread:

I'd epect a single (formation) run in Lancasters to break 80K landed damage with the 14x1000 lbs loadout. However, the chance of surviving a run that long are quite low.

[Tilt]

IMO it shouldn't have formations. It wasn't a 1000-plane-mission type of bird. It was small missions, pinpoint precision. None of this carpet bombing stuff. And it never flew in box formations to cover other bombers with its guns (because... hah! It has none...)


Overall I'd like to see it like the B5N or TBM or B-25H: No drones.

it the Mk B XVI was not a pinpoint precision bomber....... it carried the cookie and dropped it from considerable altitude with all the (in) accuracy that involves. It flew missions in squadron strength against significant strategic targets.

the fighter bomber we have now did fly many intruder raids very often just as a pair some times even solitary raids (particularly into Southern France and Northern Italy from Sicily or Southern Italy) It was far more "precision" in its role. It was essentially an attack aircraft.

My view is that it (Mk B XVI) should be formation enabled and perked appropriately. It does not have to have been a participator in mass bombing raids to qualify for this IMO.

My biggest concern is its (Miss) use in AH against  GV's. One way to fight this would be to make it perked and ONLY available in formations when carrying the cookie (or simply perk the cookie).

[Lusche]

My biggest concern is its (Miss) use in AH against  GV's.

In the light of carpet bombing Lancs (incl cookie), A20s, B25H's and 37mm cannon wielding Il-2s, that shouldn't change the game much for the tankers

[Spikes]

What you dont 'get' is that time isnt material in bomber mode. In the aircraft you mention you cannot bomb from altitude. With the Arado you not only can but should. A formation comes with all sorts of unintended baggage like lack of maneuverability (although lots of people dont let that stop them) and they also offer a much broader target to puffy ack and you cannot rearm without losing your drones (not to mention what a momentary lag will do to them). I never carry the cannon either because I think the dispersal cone of the rounds is a bit 'gamey' and gimmicked (just my opinion) and it slows you down. Its much better in my way of thinking to keep moving than it is to try to setup some ridiculous face shot on a trailing fighter but thats just me.

Now if the Mosquito comes without a bombsight thats different but I suspect it will become even more handy than a single Arado. I dont think the P-47s will be a problem at all but thats just me. 

The Arado is one of the most useful planes in the game in pretty much every aspect.

[Chalenge]

The Arado is one of the most useful planes in the game in pretty much every aspect.

No but you gimmick it well. 

[Krusty]

it the Mk B XVI was not a pinpoint precision bomber....... it carried the cookie and dropped it from considerable altitude with all the (in) accuracy that involves. It flew missions in squadron strength against significant strategic targets.

A squadron of Mossies (2 flights? 8-10 planes?) is a frakking helluva lot less impressive and destructive than the NORM of 1000-plane missions for heavy bombers carpet bombing millions of pounds of high explosive ord.

There is no way you will ever compare a mossie 16 to a heavy level bomber.

The B5Ns are more akin to heavy bombers than the Mossie is! At least they flew massive missions with level bombing (Pearl and other areas of the PTO). Frankly it'd be a travesty to have formations on everything with a bombsight. That includes the Mossie. It's just not that type of plane.

[cooldued]

A squadron of Mossies (2 flights? 8-10 planes?) is a frakking helluva lot less impressive and destructive than the NORM of 1000-plane missions for heavy bombers carpet bombing millions of pounds of high explosive ord.

There is no way you will ever compare a mossie 16 to a heavy level bomber.

The B5Ns are more akin to heavy bombers than the Mossie is! At least they flew massive missions with level bombing (Pearl and other areas of the PTO). Frankly it'd be a travesty to have formations on everything with a bombsight. That includes the Mossie. It's just not that type of plane.

take that 4000 pound bomb and multipli it by 10 now thinkthats 8 or 9 hangers gone right thayer!(not all the planes will hit a target) and yes the new mossi is able to hold a 4000 if you didnt read my last post hear.

[Tilt]

Frankly it'd be a travesty to have formations on everything with a bombsight.

Then we disagree.............

and IMO the B5n should be available in formations...........

1000 bomber raids have no relevance in AH until we can get AI in scenarios....its just a red herring arguement IMO.

[Killer91]

To further hijack this thread:

I'd epect a single (formation) run in Lancasters to break 80K landed damage with the 14x1000 lbs loadout. However, the chance of surviving a run that long are quite low.

Its not necessarily the getting shot down thats gonna end it. I usually don't encounter any enemy fighter at 25K+. The problem i have is staying connected to HTC long enough to land. Which i can't.

I had dropped all 14 bombs today but i discoed RTB. Talk about pissed off

[321BAR]

If you ever hear of a higher damage count please let me know. 

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EGOOOOO.... but i saw this also during the time i was in the game still good job!

[Chalenge]

EGOOOOO.... but i saw this also during the time i was in the game still good job!

Ha! No I just want to know where to set the bar when this new Mossie arrives. It sounds like great fun and a good plane to know well.

[321BAR]

Ha! No I just want to know where to set the bar when this new Mossie arrives. It sounds like great fun and a good plane to know well.

agreed

[Chalenge]

Update: New record... fights are non-existent on our side as rooks-knights are playing patty-cake:

[Killer91]

Update: New record... fights are non-existent on our side as rooks-knights are playing patty-cake:

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So how many rearms did that take? 

[Chalenge]

Twelve and I was having trouble with a data cable toggling my bomb load in transit or the count would have been higher.