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Offline Perrine

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Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« on: September 15, 2010, 03:00:54 PM »
god that plane rolls so slow even at slow speeds

I read somewhere that N1k2-j can roll 82°/sec at 240 mph... and the n1k2-j that we have here can barely roll with ki 84 and its almost equal to A6M :mad: :headscratch:

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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 03:08:51 PM »
So how long does it take you to roll the N1k2j 360 degrees at 240 mph?


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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 03:48:26 PM »
So how long does it take you to roll the N1k2j 360 degrees at 240 mph?



only one way the thread can go from here.
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 04:14:00 PM »
only one way the thread can go from here.

Do you say that because you lack imagination or because you rolled it in 4.4 seconds?  :D

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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 04:17:41 PM »
Do you say that because you lack imagination or because you rolled it in 4.4 seconds?  :D


that's still incredibly slow compare to likes of ki61
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 04:26:14 PM »
that's still incredibly slow compare to likes of ki61

I think FLS asked the most appropriate question.  How long did it take you to roll it at 240mph?
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 04:26:56 PM »
that's still incredibly slow compare to likes of ki61

Two different planes, it's apples and oranges.   
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2010, 06:12:30 PM »
Two different planes, it's apples and oranges.   
hmm, sounds like a quote stolen from Shuffler   :D
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2010, 09:20:41 PM »
6.7 seconds
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 10:04:34 PM »
6.7 seconds

Ok, now we just need to figure out whether or not the OP's source is accurate or not...
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 10:18:48 PM »
Ok, now we just need to figure out whether or not the OP's source is accurate or not...


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...Shiden-Kai proved to be one of the best "dogfighters" fielded by either side. Along with high speed, the fighters were very agile with a roll rate of 82°/sec at 386 km/h (240 mph)... [5][6]

5. ^ Francillon 1971, pp. 57-58.
6. ^ Francillon 1979, p. 325.

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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 10:26:21 PM »
Here's my procedure.

1. 25% fuel load
2. climb to 2,500 feet
2. maintain ~240 mph
3. roll

My best roll is around 6+ seconds, no way I can get down to 4.4.

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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2010, 11:18:19 PM »

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Any idea what Francillon's primary source was?
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Re: Is N1K2-J really a slow roller?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2010, 03:34:05 AM »
Is 240 speed indicated, or TAS?  I imagine altitude would have a large impact on this.

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