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Offline BoilerDown

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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2010, 02:42:10 PM »
If you actually do decide to produce, considering you just posted very detailed instructions here, be sure to at least consult a patent lawyer.

As for school I'm doing very similar, Industrial Management as a non-traditional student.  :)
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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2010, 09:19:54 PM »
Hurrah! :banana:

Looks like it's bought from a specialised flight sim store. :salute

Ever thought of making and selling them. :old: :joystick:



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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2010, 02:41:04 AM »
Come on Shida I will give £20 for it a 3 bottles of sunny delight for it :old:
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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2010, 05:52:29 AM »
Ohhh, I'm not sure there's anything so original to warrant patenting is there? Well, if anyone amongst the Aces High community wishes to copy elements of the design for their own use, that's alright with me. Help yourself.

The only real brain teaser was really how to make the throttle hit a stop, but then still allow it to go a smidgen further to activate the microswitch, WITHOUT moving the potentiometer any further. Obviously two separate stops were needed.

I prefer to keep the moving parts to a minimum in my designs for longevity and ease of maintenance, so I rejected springs and mechanisms and decided to take a risk on an unknown, and employ tiny Neodymium magnets to act as springs instead:-



In this shot you can see the silver coloured throttle lever coming up to the left of the frame (that has the number 13 knob on the end of it). behind it going up and right is a sort of green A-shaped thing. This is attached to the ring which has the black gear on it (that drives the pot). To the bottom right and horribly out of focus is the rear stop for this A-shaped finger. Both the throttle lever (silver) and the A-shaped finger thing (green) hold a cylindrical Neodymium magnet which normally hold these parts in station together. The magnetic field is the only thing that keeps these two parts moving together when the throttle is operated. I've simply pulled them apart for the photo.

In the next three photos you can see what happens as I approach full throttle and then activate WEP (these are perhaps clearer if you download them and view them as a slideshow).







The potentiometer drive stops before the lever does. The green thing at 45 degrees in the top left of frame with the silver shaft through it is the full-power setting stop, here you can see the little rocker arm moving. This lever pushes on the microswitch (you can see this on the other side, as shown in one of my earlier photos). Thus when the A-finger hits the stop, further pressure separates the magnets slightly to allow the silver lever to press on the rocker arm to operate the microswitch on the other side of the body, then the magnets pull themselves back together when you release. Phew, I think it was easier to make it than explain it.

The fan shaped green plate which moves with the lever is the carrier for the counterbalance. Just work in progress at the moment.

I'd never used these little magnets before in a project and they really work great! I like to keep some spares in Mrs Shida's purse, right next to her credit card. That way I can always find them.

Zack, much as I'd love to score some Sunny Delight (can't buy it here), do you see in the fourth of my original photographs, the black aluminium body has a big 5 mm hole in the bottom left of shot? That's where the potentiometer  shaft passes through the body.

The material there was 6 mm thick, and my drills ran out at 3 mm diameter. The only way I could make that hole was to drill it to 3 mm, with a pinvice holding the drill, then spend the next 3 days working at it with Emery paper wrapped around the tail of one of my files whilst watching endless films on television. After that I didn't have any fingerprints nor the will to live for three weeks so no, it's not for sale for any money, lol.

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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2010, 07:35:17 AM »
Well if you wanted to make them I think we could buy you a new drill bit in the right size. :)

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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2010, 12:46:29 AM »
nice  craftmanship :aok
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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2010, 09:51:47 AM »
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I'd never used these little magnets before in a project and they really work great! I like to keep some spares in Mrs Shida's purse, right next to her credit card. That way I can always find them.

Nice  :rofl
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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2010, 03:29:20 PM »
He he BoilerDown, I wondered if anyone would catch that one  ;) Good luck with your studies sir.

Thank you Ghosth!  :salute

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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2010, 01:15:02 AM »
I really do think you should patent this.  You've done some very clever things with the gearing and the magnets/microswitches that are, as far as I know, unique to any game controllers.  If you don't want to build these then patent it and try to license it to someone else.
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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2010, 07:02:33 AM »
I agree with Bald, combination of the end switch's with the magnets puts you in undeveloped country.
Stake your claim on it, then sell it to someone like Saitek or CH. Let them build them while you get a piece of the action.

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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2010, 02:37:38 PM »
Allways had the feeling that you were smarter than the average joe however had you built the entire thing out of lego I would have had a chance of making me own,its all self, self ,self with you people.Truly awesome piece of kit,patent it and make a million you deserve it. :aok


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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2010, 02:40:01 PM »
I agree with Bald, combination of the end switch's with the magnets puts you in undeveloped country.
Stake your claim on it, then sell it to someone like Saitek or CH. Let them build them while you get a piece of the action.


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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2010, 08:35:30 PM »
I agree with Bald, combination of the end switch's with the magnets puts you in undeveloped country.
Stake your claim on it, then sell it to someone like Saitek or CH. Let them build them while you get a piece of the action.


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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2010, 03:13:24 AM »
Nice throttle  :aok

On the patenting - now that the design has been made public, doesn't that automatically void any patent applications on this thing?

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Re: Homemade Throttle
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2010, 04:00:14 AM »
I really know very little about patenting, save that it's expensive (around $2000 in the U.S. Around €20,000 in EACH European country), difficult to attain and often circumvented. This goes back to 1780 when some slag called James Pickard patented the crank and flywheel, believe it or not. This was worked around by James Watt, who employed a sun and planet gear to do the same thing.

I thought that playing with patents was nowadays a rich man's game, or an investors game. I really don't have that kind of resources. Intellectual property laws never seem to favour the inventive dudes. I could be wrong though if anyone knows better. But I have no time to research this now, I must study.

I'm absolutely blown away by all the positive comments. It really wasn't my intention at all, I just thought there would be other constructors / simulator pilots who would find it interesting or inspiring.

Actually the throttle was a bit of a diversion for me from one of my other design projects. If you liked the throttle you should see my motorcycle design. I've been busy with that for three years now.

P.S. Hey Shotdown, good to see you, where have you been?

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