Whoa fellas I'm not dogging on the no icons setup at all. I think it is interesting and adds a new element to a dogfight. However there is sacrifice that comes with it. When you aren't in a close quarters fight, you have to basically stick your nose up against your monitor looking for bad guys (at least I did last night), which I don't think is very fun(is that an airplane or a bush?). Heck, it would almost be better if there were icons at 5k out that disappeared as you got closer into the 2k range. Is that a silly request? Maybe, but it would at least improve my fun as I wouldn't have troubles at least locating the enemy in a sparce arena up until the point of ACM combat where the icon crutch disappears. My 2c, but it definitely has promise!