CV's not being used in the game.......

[Jayhawk]

Like my football coach always said, hang with turds and you start to smell like one yourself. You keep your company and are responsible for members in your squad same as i would be for guys under me doing the same.

I hope you aren't making judgment's on my squad based on some upset players in the BBS.  I understand I am connected to my members, but relatively speaking, holding CVs was nothing compared to that name-calling and abuse they were being subjected too.

2nd. You enjoy flying 8+ sectors looking for a CV?? Somehow I find it hard to believe you would do that.
        Aren't untouchable?? 

You understand what we do in bombers right?  8 sectors is nothing. 


The big issue I see here is that this situation was the result of hours of play and many many people influencing it.  The port had to be taken, the CV had to be sunk, the CV had to be threatened again, and the CV had to make the long long trip out of the area.  The few hours it was being held down south was relatively insignificant. Two of my squaddies are being persecuted because they were playing a role in this for a relatively short period of time.  If you don't like the fact that it can be done, that's fine, but realize that there were multiple factors going into that CV's trip.  I believe only one or two people attempted to make the trip to the CVs, and no higher ranked players took command of the CV, both viable options to move them again.

So that's the main point I want to get out of this:  It was a long journey for those CV's to get down there, and a lot of people played a role, either by moving it or choosing not to sink it.  Blaming two players for the entire course of events is short-sighted, why aren't you asking your country why no one sank it when the port was taken back?

[columbus]

why worry about usually some dweeb from another country comes over to your country high jacks the cv and gives cords to buddies and its sunk.

[Jayhawk]

Geez, this is hard to keep up with.  

Then why do some in your squad care so much about a CV that they need to hide it and keep it away from people who enjoy fighting from carriers?

They can play how they want, as long as they remain respectful to other players, what control should I have over them?

Lusche- 20 sectors is a long way, I agree.  Let me be clear that I'm not saying I'm all for this, just pointing out how wrong it is to single out two players when it took a long time and a lot of players to move that CV there.

btw, gonna call IN now because I have to go to work and will be surprised if this lasts that long.

[captain1ma]

jg54 was always good at returning "lost" CV's. used to be fun to listen to 200 after we sunk them out in the middle of no where!

[FLOTSOM]

well i have begun to see a newish attitude creeping into the game as of late, intolerance to lame arsed-dweebery!!

what i mean by this, as a for instance, the other night while having a great time in a between bases furball my squaddie and others noticed a group of friendly bombers heading towards the base that the enemy we were fighting were upping from.

now as this was our fun and our fight and the players that had been knocking each other back and forth for over an hour had made no more on either base this seemed to me and to all my squaddies present to be exceptionally lame! there were other fights going on on the map, there were others in other places looking to take bases, but instead this "person" took it upon themselves to jump into a fight that was going great without them in an attempt to drop the hangers and ruin the fun for what was about 30 to 40 players fighting in the air and on the ground between the 2 sides.

now this "person" in the bombers was asked what his intent was and his reply was specifically to drop hangers...he was then asked to refrain from doing this as it would ruin the on going fight, he was additionally asked if he could just go bomb the next base up the coast instead. the "persons" responce was I'm not going anywhere else, then we noticed a second set of bombers flying behind the first. the intent of these people to put down the base and end our fight was now plainly clear.

so my squaddie (damn i love being a Muppet) took the first step, upon 200 he announced more than once for all the world to see that there were 2 sets of bombers at approximately 8000 ft heading to drop the hangers at A52. he continued to type alert 52 bombers inbound flying approximately 2k south of the coast at 8000 ft.

then it seemed as one unit, without talking about it amongst ourselves, almost every country man who was in a fighter who was engaged with an enemy fighter, or in the path of an enemy fighter headed towards the bombers location, pulled off and ceased their attack. we allowed every enemy fighter that wanted it free passage to the bombers, most of us stayed far enough back so that the enemy could persue their target without the fear of being jumped by us. one friendly that i spotted rushing in at an enemy P51 i check 6 5 times in rapid succession until he veered away flipping over and diving looking for the danger. by the time he recovered the 51 was well above and well away.

of the 6 bombers only one bomber survived to reach the shore again, it was in flames before it reached the base exploding just after it started to drop its bombs well short of their target.

that was the last bomber attempt that i know of in that fight for the remainder of the time i was there.

now i know that many of you are so offended at the thought that someone would do this that you are about to burst a vein in your head.....well calm down cause it gets worse!

not too far back a country man mentioned that he didn't understand why there were 3 count them 3 CV's hidding in the far corners of the map nowhere near an enemy base, i explained that they were highjacked and being hidden from the enemy. well after a few moments of conversation on the dweebiness of the situation this other player views the roster and finds the name of some he knows currently flying in the enemy country closest to the CV's. he explains to me after a few moments of silence that he then notified someone who will do something about it where the CV's were hidden.

i find this type of anti-dweebery extremely funny and additionally very productive to the game play of the many as opposed to catering to the selfishness of a few (not to be confused with members of The FEW  guys) so i have adopted this type of anti-dweebery attitude and shall from now on live up to similar standards in similar situations.

now this does not mean i will give up noe missions or big mixed bag missions heading out to do their base thing.

but if there is a furball going on that you want to end just because its your $15.00 then rest assured i will give up your location and give anyone who chases you a free pass, if i spot CV's tucked in the corner of the map not being used i will announce their location to the world at large.

you wanna play like a selfish a&*%$#e then i will be happy to meet you at that level.

 

[columbus]

well i have begun to see a newish attitude creeping into the game as of late, intolerance to lame arsed-dweebery!!

what i mean by this, as a for instance, the other night while having a great time in a between bases furball my squaddie and others noticed a group of friendly bombers heading towards the base that the enemy we were fighting were upping from.

now as this was our fun and our fight and the players that had been knocking each other back and forth for over an hour had made no more on either base this seemed to me and to all my squaddies present to be exceptionally lame! there were other fights going on on the map, there were others in other places looking to take bases, but instead this "person" took it upon themselves to jump into a fight that was going great without them in an attempt to drop the hangers and ruin the fun for what was about 30 to 40 players fighting in the air and on the ground between the 2 sides.

now this "person" in the bombers was asked what his intent was and his reply was specifically to drop hangers...he was then asked to refrain from doing this as it would ruin the on going fight, he was additionally asked if he could just go bomb the next base up the coast instead. the "persons" responce was I'm not going anywhere else, then we noticed a second set of bombers flying behind the first. the intent of these people to put down the base and end our fight was now plainly clear.

so my squaddie (damn i love being a Muppet) took the first step, upon 200 he announced more than once for all the world to see that there were 2 sets of bombers at approximately 8000 ft heading to drop the hangers at A52. he continued to type alert 52 bombers inbound flying approximately 2k south of the coast at 8000 ft.

then it seemed as one unit, without talking about it amongst ourselves, almost every country man who was in a fighter who was engaged with an enemy fighter, or in the path of an enemy fighter headed towards the bombers location, pulled off and ceased their attack. we allowed every enemy fighter that wanted it free passage to the bombers, most of us stayed far enough back so that the enemy could persue their target without the fear of being jumped by us. one friendly that i spotted rushing in at an enemy P51 i check 6 5 times in rapid succession until he veered away flipping over and diving looking for the danger. by the time he recovered the 51 was well above and well away.

of the 6 bombers only one bomber survived to reach the shore again, it was in flames before it reached the base exploding just after it started to drop its bombs well short of their target.

that was the last bomber attempt that i know of in that fight for the remainder of the time i was there.

now i know that many of you are so offended at the thought that someone would do this that you are about to burst a vein in your head.....well calm down cause it gets worse!

not too far back a country man mentioned that he didn't understand why there were 3 count them 3 CV's hidding in the far corners of the map nowhere near an enemy base, i explained that they were highjacked and being hidden from the enemy. well after a few moments of conversation on the dweebiness of the situation this other player views the roster and finds the name of some he knows currently flying in the enemy country closest to the CV's. he explains to me after a few moments of silence that he then notified someone who will do something about it where the CV's were hidden.

i find this type of anti-dweebery extremely funny and additionally very productive to the game play of the many as opposed to catering to the selfishness of a few (not to be confused with members of The FEW  guys) so i have adopted this type of anti-dweebery attitude and shall from now on live up to similar standards in similar situations.

now this does not mean i will give up noe missions or big mixed bag missions heading out to do their base thing.

but if there is a furball going on that you want to end just because its your $15.00 then rest assured i will give up your location and give anyone who chases you a free pass, if i spot CV's tucked in the corner of the map not being used i will announce their location to the world at large.

you wanna play like a selfish a&*%$#e then i will be happy to meet you at that level.

 

well the problem with that is they spend their 14.95 and they should be allowed to bomb hangers if they want.  and i think thats part of the problem. the countries have squads within themselves or individuals that do their own thing. reguardless of what the country needs as a whole. and noone has a right to tell those people they can't and much it may have ruin peoples fun.

[FLOTSOM]

well their going out of their way to end a furbal/ground fight occupying 30 or 40 guys just because they want to is their way of telling me i cant play my way, so they get the respect they give.

nothing for nothing

[columbus]

well i agree but that's what happens when you got everyone that's suppost to be a country not acting together and on the same page. its like having 3 or 4 countries within your own country. almost not worth having countries and everyone fight for themselves.

[FLOTSOM]

well i agree but that's what happens when you got everyone that's suppost to be a country not acting together and on the same page. its like having 3 or 4 countries within your own country. almost not worth having countries and everyone fight for themselves.

I completely concur with this statement!!

[Ack-Ack]

nice so the 91st & Jokers are up there with the CJ's. It's becoming pointless for Navy squads in this game. Log on to find we have no CV's, switch countries to find we can't use CV's since they're 12 hours from a fight and someone is keeping them away.

Maybe CV's need to be limited on how far from port they can travel and are set on a auto course back to port if it's captured. That or we just need to go back to small maps to prevent cv's from being hiding away by turds.

Or we can just use AW's old method and make the CVs stationary.  No whines in that game about CV hiding.


ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

jg54 was always good at returning "lost" CV's. used to be fun to listen to 200 after we sunk them out in the middle of no where!

You mean JG54 was good at having a member switch countries and take control of a CV and sail it to a coastal enemy base, one with a SB if possible.  Then another member of JG54 that didn't switch would then up bombers or use the SB to sink the CV under control of their squadron mates.  Yeah, you guys were the TOPS!   


ack-ack

[ttflier]

So hiding a CV and protecting the asset when it's port has been taken by another country doesn't make good strategic sense???  Maybe all the folks with the issue should have focused on retaking the Port the CV belonged to instead of just whining.  Oh thats right, it is easier to whine 

[waystin2]

Here is a question that just popped into my head: does the captured and hidden CV count towards the win percentage for map reset?  If so, this might explain some of this behavior.

[uptown]

Tlt that is a fantastic idea . I hope HTC is paying attention to this. Something does need to be done about how a CV is controlled. maybe your idea is the answer 

[ImADot]

does the captured and hidden CV count towards the win percentage for map reset?  If so, this might explain some of this behavior.

Yes it does, and yes it does.