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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 01:49:59 PM »
High Fructose Corn Syrup is the #1 contributor to obesity in America.

Why is this?  I've heard this before, but I can't figure out how it causes obesity more than sugar would.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 01:52:16 PM »
High Fructose Corn Syrup is the #1 contributor to obesity in America.

it would be irrelevant, if kids were...uuumm.....ooohhh...... i dunno..........active?
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 01:54:45 PM »
Why is this?  I've heard this before, but I can't figure out how it causes obesity more than sugar would.

none of this crap will cause obesity, if their burned off. to burn off what you eat, you need to get off your rump, and do stuff.

 why do you think men gain weight as they approach middle age? it couldn't be because they start doing less active things, and accordingly their metabolism slows down, do ya?

 they can regulate this stuff all they want. till we find a way to get kids to become more active again, it ain't gonna help.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 02:03:18 PM »
High Fructose Corn Syrup is the #1 contributor to obesity in America.

now that's changed to CORN SUGAR

repeat after me

CORN SUGAR

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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 03:05:24 PM »
now that's changed to CORN SUGAR

repeat after me

CORN SUGAR

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Actually, reading the package labels will educated you much better. In drinks, even supposed fruit juices, high fructose corn syrup is one of the top 3 ingredients, add some highly refined flour with that for pre-packaged supposedly healthy foods and a few preservatives that are known to bind to fats and you have fat people who can't lose the weight with exercise. Change in diet would do a lot more but, it's actually more expensive to eat actual healthy foods.

Went grocery shopping this weekend with the wife who has to have a low potassium, low sodium, low protein diet...5 days worth of actual healthy foods just for her cost as much 1 week of crap foods for 3 other people, and the selection is slim to none. She is losing weight by eating 3 healthy meals and a healthy snack with zero exercise, other than laundry once a week.
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 04:46:55 PM »
what's that crap(pun intended) that jamie lee curtis keeps talking about on tv/?

It's called "Craptivia".

It's for folks who haven't bowed up for a couple of weeks.

There's a few people I can think of sending a pallet-load to as a gift.


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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 04:49:59 PM »
Actually, reading the package labels will educated you much better. In drinks, even supposed fruit juices, high fructose corn syrup is one of the top 3 ingredients, add some highly refined flour with that for pre-packaged supposedly healthy foods and a few preservatives that are known to bind to fats and you have fat people who can't lose the weight with exercise. Change in diet would do a lot more but, it's actually more expensive to eat actual healthy foods.

Went grocery shopping this weekend with the wife who has to have a low potassium, low sodium, low protein diet...5 days worth of actual healthy foods just for her cost as much 1 week of crap foods for 3 other people, and the selection is slim to none. She is losing weight by eating 3 healthy meals and a healthy snack with zero exercise, other than laundry once a week.

You need to make her start doing all the work in bed :banana:


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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 05:27:57 PM »
I take my flintstones vitamins.
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2010, 05:57:32 PM »

Because Corn is subsidised by the Fed it's currently cheaper to produce HFCS than white sugar(sucrose). HFCS has a longer shelf life and combines more effectivle with other ingrediants while having the same sweetness factor as white sugar(sucrose). In the 1970's the U.S. switched to HFCS from sugar as the primary sweetner in most processed foods and drinks. By the 1990's almost everyone around you had a few too many pounds on and it had nothing to do with not working out. It had everything to do with how your body processes HFCS vs. white sugar.

We are not going back to white sugar soon because of the corn lobby and all of the money to be made on subsidies. In the 1950's and 60's U.S. companies put white sugar(sucrose), fat and salt in everything to sell it to us. As a society we did not get fat(obese) like we do now. We did not have the occurances of diabetis, heart disease and obesity that we have now in the 3 year old to 30 year old age groups.

By the way, since the 1970's childhood diabetis in the U.S. has almost become an epidemic. Hmmmm,,,HFCS became the primary sweetner in all processed foods and drinks...hhhmmmm

Here is the short version on the Princeton research on rats HFCS and obesity.
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http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/index.xml?section=science

The Princeton researchers had been studying not only side effects of high fructose corn syrup, but how your body reacts when it's ingested. They discovered that rats which had access to high fructose corn syrup gained significantly more weight than those with access to basic table sugar, even when their overall caloric intake was the same.

They did two studies and here are a few excerpts from their findings:

The first experiment — male rats given water sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup in addition to a standard diet of rat chow gained much more weight than male rats that received water sweetened with table sugar, or sucrose, in conjunction with the standard diet. The concentration of sugar in the sucrose solution was the same as is found in some commercial soft drinks, while the high-fructose corn syrup solution was half as concentrated as most sodas.
 
The second experiment — the first long-term study of the effects of high-fructose corn syrup consumption on obesity in lab animals — monitored weight gain, body fat and triglyceride levels in rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup over a period of six months. Compared to animals eating only rat chow, rats on a diet rich in high-fructose corn syrup showed characteristic signs of a dangerous condition known in humans as the metabolic syndrome, including abnormal weight gain, significant increases in circulating triglycerides and augmented fat deposition, especially visceral fat around the belly. Male rats in particular ballooned in size: Animals with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained 48 percent more weight than those eating a normal diet. In humans, this would be equivalent to a 200-pound man gaining 96 pounds.
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 08:41:07 PM »
quite often, diabetes(type 2 i think) is due to obesity, and inactivity. quite often heart conditions can/do come from obesity too. quite often, obesity comes from inactivity.

example. a friend of mine has 4 kids, ranged from 17 to 26 years of age right now. bear in mind i've known this guy, and his family for over 10 years.  the oldest, is 6' and built like me......he weighs about 160#. even when he was younger, he was everywhere except inside, unless he was eating or sleeping.
 the other three....the youngest is 5'6, and weighs over 300#, rarely ever get out. they never did. they still don't.

 they all have the same parents, the same environment.....yet the lazy ones are obese, the non-lazy one is a twig.


whatcha think caused that? only one of em didn't eat high frutcose crap?
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2010, 11:51:44 PM »
quite often, diabetes(type 2 i think) is due to obesity, and inactivity. quite often heart conditions can/do come from obesity too. quite often, obesity comes from inactivity.

example. a friend of mine has 4 kids, ranged from 17 to 26 years of age right now. bear in mind i've known this guy, and his family for over 10 years.  the oldest, is 6' and built like me......he weighs about 160#. even when he was younger, he was everywhere except inside, unless he was eating or sleeping.
 the other three....the youngest is 5'6, and weighs over 300#, rarely ever get out. they never did. they still don't.

 they all have the same parents, the same environment.....yet the lazy ones are obese, the non-lazy one is a twig.


whatcha think caused that? only one of em didn't eat high frutcose crap?

 3 of em got the fat genes, one didn't.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2010, 12:05:46 AM »
3 of em got the fat genes, one didn't.

well, admittedly, the father is fat.......the mother was only "pleasantly plump", although she's kinda gotten fat too. but she got lazy too. go figure.

another example.

mom.

she's been overweight as long as i can remember, although i've seen pictures of her as a very skinny woman.

 within 9 years of retiring, she was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. she (coincidentally) became more and more inactive. i tended to keep her running errands when she was staying with me, and my brother kept her busy with his daughter when she was staying with him. she was ok then. as she got less active, she started pounding on the weight. then the diabetes. then the "high heart rate" because she was nervous/scare when she was going for some sort of test. they put her in the er. then they said she was ok, but had to take these blood thinners. those made it so she couldn't walk from the parking lot to the mall without having to sit down. she called me in a panic because of this, and i asked her if she had started any meds....she told me about the blood thinner, so i told her to stop it and call her doc. she felt better the next day.
 now, they're telling her other things.

 the worst part? if she would just exercise a little...even just walking briskly,.....i'd be willing to bet my house that she'd lose some weight, and the diabetes would clear up, as would the other problems. she thinks i harp on this just to bug her. i keep telling her i'm only harping on this, 'cause she's all i have left. she gets quiet after that, but i still can't convince her. it seems papers framed and hung on a wall mean more than common sense.

 my uncle was diagnosed with type2 diabetes within1 year of retiring. he didn't put on as much weight as her, but he did put on some. he also became less active.
 when he got that diagnosis, he started golfing more, bowling, and walking. he doesn't have diabetes anymore. hhmmmmmm......now if only i could convince mom....i really don't want to lose her........
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