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Airbus forced landing
« on: November 04, 2010, 10:25:29 AM »

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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 10:53:13 AM »
Wow..... that would be a frightening experience.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 10:56:01 AM »
i would probably view this differently should i have been on that plane....but to the best of my knowledge, these aircraft are certified to be able to lfy short distances in the event of an engine failure....at least to get them to a safe landing area. this is reinforced by the fact that they circled for a bit to burn off fuel before doing their emergency landing...........
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 11:08:20 AM »
The pilots probably wanted to land so they could get a pair of fresh trousers
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 11:39:22 AM »
i would probably view this differently should i have been on that plane....but to the best of my knowledge, these aircraft are certified to be able to lfy short distances in the event of an engine failure....at least to get them to a safe landing area. this is reinforced by the fact that they circled for a bit to burn off fuel before doing their emergency landing...........
The plane is certified to take off and climb on three engines after reaching "go-no go" speed on the runway.  It probably has a fuel dump system to get to landing weight.

This was more than an engine shut down.  Parts falling off can lead to changes in flight characteristics and damage to nearby components.

 :salute to the QANTAS guys for not making a bad situation worse.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2010, 12:00:39 PM »
The plane is certified to take off and climb on three engines after reaching "go-no go" speed on the runway.  It probably has a fuel dump system to get to landing weight.

This was more than an engine shut down.  Parts falling off can lead to changes in flight characteristics and damage to nearby components.

 :salute to the QANTAS guys for not making a bad situation worse.

oohh don't mis-interpret me...i think they did a great job. things could have gone a LOT worse...........

and i can attest to the flight characteristic changes when parts fall off....at least as far as our game goes.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 12:08:32 PM »
Since it seems to have happened at altitude a bird strike is not much of an issue with this failure. It will be interesting to hear what the examination of the engine finds.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 03:46:01 PM »
The problem here was not loosing an engine, but the fact that it was an uncontained engine failure. The engine is suppose to contain all parts during a failure, but this one didnt. in previous cases of an UEF, people have died or been injured from pieces of the engine entering the cabin. One thing that was lucky about this case is that the wing took most of the damage from the engine so nothing made it into the cabin.

Very lucky incodent for everyone on board the plane and for Qantas.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 04:37:45 PM »
My uncle, aunt, and cousin were on a 737 otw to Hawaii and one engine went out like half way there, they said it was soooo scary.


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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 05:11:59 PM »
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"The tanks are located and designed to be protected in case of such problems. The wing was affected, but absolutely not the fuel tank," said Airbus spokeswoman Aude Lebas.

There ya have it folks, Airbus claiming their _single lone_ fuel tank in the A380 is designed to be protected in exactly such a cases as this.   :huh  :O   :uhoh


My uncle, aunt, and cousin were on a 737 otw to Hawaii and one engine went out like half way there, they said it was soooo scary.


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This was significantly more serious than a contained engine failure or outage.  In this case debris from the engine was uncontained and that is a serious failure/incident, they are very lucky nothing else (besides some of the external skin on the wing) was critically damaged, compromised or ignited by the engine debris/shrapnel.  This incident is worth warranting the grounding of the rest of the A380s in use until the problem is discovered and/or resolved. 

An out engine can be scary but it happens, you usually have to descend in altitude and then fly slightly off-level since you only have power to one side of the aircraft.  I'm sure it felt awkward and uncomforitable for them, but they were perfectly safe, the 737 has some pretty robust engines, even if one of two of them is out.  In their case an incident investigation into why the engine failed would be warrented, but not grounding the rest of the B-737 fleet.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 05:27:23 PM »
There ya have it folks, Airbus claiming their _single lone_ fuel tank in the A380 is designed to be protected in exactly such a cases as this.   :huh  :O   :uhoh

This was significantly more serious than a contained engine failure or outage.  In this case debris from the engine was uncontained and that is a serious failure/incident, they are very lucky nothing else (besides some of the external skin on the wing) was critically damaged, compromised or ignited by the engine debris/shrapnel.  This incident is worth warranting the grounding of the rest of the A380s in use until the problem is discovered and/or resolved. 

An out engine can be scary but it happens, you usually have to descend in altitude and then fly slightly off-level since you only have power to one side of the aircraft.  I'm sure it felt awkward and uncomforitable for them, but they were perfectly safe, the 737 has some pretty robust engines, even if one of two of them is out.  In their case an incident investigation into why the engine failed would be warrented, but not grounding the rest of the B-737 fleet.

WTF are you on about? The A380 has ten fuel tanks.

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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 05:34:38 PM »


The Rolls Royce engines are also used on Boeings, should they be grounded too?

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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 06:49:43 PM »
This was significantly more serious than a contained engine failure or outage.  In this case debris from the engine was uncontained and that is a serious failure/incident, they are very lucky nothing else (besides some of the external skin on the wing) was critically damaged, compromised or ignited by the engine debris/shrapnel.  This incident is worth warranting the grounding of the rest of the A380s in use until the problem is discovered and/or resolved. 

Only the A380s equipped with the Trent 972s have been recommended to be grounded.  Those with the other ('GP7000') type are unaffected.
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