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Offline -lynx-

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98 runs hotter than 2000
« on: November 08, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »
Was just mucking about here re-installing 98SE and decided to copy all files from CD to my HD... Booted up existing installation of 98, 677MB started to copy, I went away, came back - system halted... Hard re-boot - when it came back to life the temperature was still in high 50s - ouch! Tried copying again - same result - you can see the temperature going up as the large files get copied. Re-booted in Win2000 - the same procedure is a. faster (much faster for that matter) and b. cooler - temp indicator is sitting at 34C and not moving...

Can anyone explain this (I did a virus check just in case)? (TB 1GHz on Abit KT7a non-RAID, 512MB)

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98 runs hotter than 2000
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2001, 02:47:00 PM »
Sounds like you have something running in the background on 98. Did you have problems with overheating on any benchmarks you did? Also are you overclocking?

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2001, 01:46:00 AM »
No overcocking - FSB 100Mhz, memory - 133MHz. Nothing in the background that I can see - that's why the first though was a virus. It also takes ages to load now (used to be less than 30 secs)... Leph? Skuzzy? Help! :(

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2001, 11:27:00 AM »
Well, I THINK I know what is going on here.  I may be wrong....  There might be some driver issue here (VIA 4-in-1's) that are causing this instead.  But, here is my guess.

Simply put, Win98 can't do a "halt" on the CPU.  If a process is "running" in Win98, it runs the CPU wide open.  It doesn't hog it all just to do nothing, it will multitask (sorta.. Win98 sucks at it) but the CPU basically will run wide open wether needed or not.  If that process is waiting, the CPU still goes full out, just doing nothing instructions, but still processing and generating heat.  Win2k can execute a halt instruction whenever the CPU is not busy and basically stop it from generating heat. (We are talking very tiny time slices here.)  So whenever the CPU is waiting on the disk system for example, in Win2k it gets shut off, where as in Win98 it's still going nuts cranking out heat.  This is why programs like RAIN and CPUIdle help keep Win9x systems cooler, because they detect when Win9x isn't really doing anything and shut down the CPU.

That said... if the CPU really IS under 100% load, Win2k should heat it up just as badly.  That means if you are playing a game like AH that is really pushing your CPU, the Win2k box will heat up badly as well.  Either way, you have a heat problem.  Time to look at your heatsink/fan and how it is attached.

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2001, 12:11:00 PM »
uh-oh... I have 4.32s installed... Hmmm... :( I'm going to wipe it all clean and do a 98Lite version... Will see if it cures it. (BTW, I ran AH and others under 2000 with CPU settling at ~50C and not moving...)