New Panther Tank

[kilo2]

where's all the world of tank guys w/ their 2 cent input ????

Yeah any time I get the urge to gv now i play WoT.

[iwomba]

Looks like we are getting some new German Iron.  

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Bit pointless introducing new gv's when the damage modelling etc on the ones we have still require much more fine tuning.

Example : 2 stationery tanks , one shoots at the broadside of the other ,sees a hit sprite dead middle ,then the shell explodes in the trees behind the tank with no no damage or kill on the tank observed with the hit sprite.

Happened 3 times on 3 separate occasions the other night.

With gv's you just have to take that kind of watermelon all the time

[Charge]

Few other ambush camos:

http://ausfwerks.com/buildup/panther/main.html

http://www.the-old-toy-factory.com/Webpage/Imagens/Escala%201_32/99405S1_Panther_Tank_Ambush_Camo.jpg

I understand that the scheme is not supposed to be spotted with round spots but with irregular triangles or other such patterns, or maybe they had different stencisl for those in different factories.

Discussion on subject:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c990f57cf290a6d38d50c9d9eef229bc&t=70734&page=2

-C+

[GreenEagle43]

where is the American tank? like the M-18 hell cat.



enough of the German tanks. we need American tank in here now. we have the B-29 coming in from late
war. why not the M-18 hell cat from 1945.

[GreenEagle43]

oh ya or maybe the Pershing tank the M29 yea.



American

[Void]

Japanese had tanks too... 

[321BAR]

where is the American tank? like the M-18 hell cat.

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enough of the German tanks. we need American tank in here now. we have the B-29 coming in from late
war. why not the M-18 hell cat from 1945.

M-18!!!

[Pigslilspaz]

where is the American tank? like the M-18 hell cat.

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enough of the German tanks. we need American tank in here now. we have the B-29 coming in from late
war. why not the M-18 hell cat from 1945.

Why did you mention it? This thread now belongs to BAR.

[DERK13]

Japanese had tanks too... 

with paper armor, like the rest of the things they built

[Karnak]

with paper armor, like the rest of the things they built

Their ships certainly didn't have paper armor, nor did their aircraft once they put armor on them.

They didn't even try to build a tank for tank vs. tank combat until the very end, and the few of those they did build never fought.  For some unfathomable reason, the Japanese focused on ships and airplanes.  Maybe it had to do with tanks not floating very well...

[DEECONX]

Their ships certainly didn't have paper armor, nor did their aircraft once they put armor on them.

They didn't even try to build a tank for tank vs. tank combat until the very end, and the few of those they did build never fought.  For some unfathomable reason, the Japanese focused on ships and airplanes.  Maybe it had to do with tanks not floating very well...

^this 

[Volron]

A question is, "Do you think they will add Japanese tanks in AH?".  I honestly do not see why not, seeing as they did use them, even if their armor was a bit on the thin side.  People ask for the Panzer II, and it's armor was not that much better.  The same could be said about the Soviet BT-5, which I have not seen many people request this tank (In fact, search only pulled up an O'Club topic about one being raised, but no wishing or discussion).  It is a tank I would like to see added as well as the BT-7.

Another question is, "Which of the Japanese tanks would be added 1st?".  That one is a bit of a doozy.  Those of you who have books about Japanese tanks, would be better equipped to answer this question.

Now, back to topic...

I've seen many a photo of the Panther with a pintle gun, will they be adding it to our Panther prior to it's release?  I also wonder if it's Eny is going to be the same, or lower than the Tiger's.  I'm guessing it will be the same.  Perk price will be about the same as well.  While it's gun is deadlier than the Tiger's, it's armor is thinner overall.  Deadlier gun, slightly faster, better, slopped armor.....perked = to the Tiger is my guess.  I wouldn't complain if it was, or even slightly higher considering it's advantages.  Also means I'm going to run out of perks right quick. haha  I can only imagine right now, how she'll look rolling around on USRanger's Twin Rivers map....*drools*

[Yeager]

According to Robert Leckie author and marine several Japanese tanks on Guadalcanal were taken out with M1 Garands and .30 cal MGs

[jamdive]

been holding my tongue about this since the convention.  Actually as far as frontal protection the panther tends to be a slightly better then the Tiger 1, mostly due to the armors slope.

             Panther G               Tiger 1
Turret F.     110/11deg.          100/8deg.
hull front      80/55deg.(upper) 100/24deg
                  60/55deg.(lower)
gun mantlet   100 (curved)       100-110/0deg.

The actual size or surface area comes into play also. The smaller the surface area of the actual area exposed is a quality in itself. A 6'x2' plate at 100mm thickness will out perform a 6'x6' plate at 100mm thickness. The frontal area on that panther is enormous compared to the tiger. As far as the slope is concerned, the 8.8cm round overmatched most armour plating where the slope is calculated in. t-34 vs. tigerI is a good example. The spare track sections of the tigerI being mounted on the front of the hull is not by accident either, and is not modeled in AH.

[Imowface]

According to Robert Leckie author and marine several Japanese tanks on Guadalcanal were taken out with M1 Garands and .30 cal MGs

this is ture, any weapon 7.62mm or bigger is a threat to japanese tanks