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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2010, 06:58:23 PM »
I don't know. Intellectual honesty? Even newer MB's are having problems with this device and until new BIOSs are available that's not going to change.

Not everyone buys from you. Do you really want someone to buy this and then say TD said it was all that and... meh...


No offense to you, but if someone is buying a $700 part based solely on this 1 thread they don't really need to be building a system / buying parts on their own.  It's rule #1 to building not to use 1 review to buy something, let alone something this expensive.
TD did also say "[. . .] look at PCIe SSD drives as an option (no they are not cheep)."

We're all nitpicky about something, but no need for anyone to get uppidy about it. :)
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 09:36:52 PM »
I dont know. Intellectual honesty? Even newer MBs are having problems with this device and until new BIOSs are available thats not going to change.
I thought I showed intellectual honesty, compared Drive A to Drive B and showed a chart proving my findings.  When new things come out, some makers are not on the cutting edge of whats available to the consumer.  The RevoDRIVE is the one having issues not the RevoDRIVE 2.  The better manufactures care about being the top in their field and make sure that they are able to make use of the latest and greatest.  Fact being, this drive works flawlessly with the Higher end boards from EVGA, Gigabyte, ASUS,MSI etc etc here is a short list.

Compataible ASUS Boards
Pk5-E Wifi/AP - bios 1305 - Using a x16 slot (running x4)
Asus P5E - bios 0303 grafical output low performance in W7/64bit - bios 1201 grafical output good performance
Asus P5E Deluxe - ? Bios
P5Q-E - Bios 2101 - used PCIe_2
P5Q Pro (2102 bios)
P5Q PRO Turbo - BIOS v0602
P5Q Deluxe bios 2301 (non EFI)
Asus P5E3 Premium - bios 0803
Asus Rampage Formula x48 775 motherboard http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post571256
Asus Sabertooth 1366 - BIOS: AMI 6.6.0.1 - All Slots
Asus P6T DELUXE (version 1) - BIOS 1701, 2101 BIOS, drive in x4 slot, no issues.
ASUS P6T SE - ? Bios
Asus P6T Deluxe V2 - 1003 BIOS x 4 slot - 1108 BIOS x4 slot
P6X58D premium (with bios v1002)
Asus P6X58D-Extreme with bios 0303

Asus Rampage II Extreme using Bios 1504 and 1914
ASUS Rampage III Extreme X58 - Bios 1005 - PCIe16x, on PCIe4x works very slow
Asus Maximus III Formula ? Bios

P7P55D-E Premium - 1205 BIOS, drive in second PCIe slot, no issues.
P7P55D-E Deluxe with bios version 1404
P7P55D PRO - bios 1807 - second and third pci-e slot no issues
P7P55D EVO - BIOS 0501 -Slot 3 x4 PCIe

Rampage III Formula BIOS 0402
Striker Extreme 1 , Nforce 680I SLI, most recent BIOS version PCIex 16 Slot

MSI Boards
MSI Big Bang XPower board (BIOS 1.47 beta) See post #53
MSI 890FXA-GD70 (18T Bios) See this Thread http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...FXA-bios-files
MSI H55-G43 - Bios 1.4

Gigabyte Boards
EP45-UD3P (BIOS F10)

GA-X48-DS5 (BIOS F8C)
GA-X48-DQ6 (BIOS F8D), with the 2 onboard RAID controllers enabled.

GA-P55M-UD2 Rev 1.0 - BIOS F11
GA-P55A-UD4 - BIOS F15
GA-P55A-UD6 - Bios 11 and 12c

GA-X58A-UD3R Rev2.0 - Bios FB - installed bottom slot
GA-X58A-UD5 version 1 on F6 bios
GA-X58A UD5 Rev2.0 with BIOS FB (not F8!!)
GA-X58A-UD7 REV 1.0, BIOS F7
GA-EX58-UD5 (Bios 13q) - working fine : blazingly fast, about 8 seconds from boot till Windows 7 desktop.
GAMA78GPM-DS2H - BIOS of F6g "beta" - installed in the X16 slot without any issues!
GA-870A-UD3 Rev2.1 - Bios Version F2 - See Post #102
GA-890FXA-UD5 BIOS F4 and F5 - Raid Rom Disabled
GA-890GPA-UD3H Bios F9c

EVGA Boards
EVGA P55 FTW - Bios A72 -- in the X8 slot [furthest from CPU].
EVGA X58 FTW3....see post #10 for more info
EVGA X58 SLI with latest bios (74?) .. using 3rd full pcix slot (see post 30)
X58 E758 SLI and Revo work flawlessly only with EVGA newest BIOS Version 77.
EVGA X58 Classified 3 (141-GT-E770) motherboard with BIOS version 77.
EVGA X58 Classified E760 - BIOS 74
EVGA 680i as long as you read this thread.

Not everyone buys from you. Do you really want someone to buy this and then say TD said it was all that and... meh...
No they do not.  But every build I do is thoroughly researched, knowing that all the components chosen all compliment each other, no bottle necks.  If someone purchases a component because a person on the boards here says "hey this is great" but they do not do any research themselves to assure that it is compatible with the other components they have or plan on purchasing, this is someone who should not be building a system.  Anyone can build a system but this does not mean that they should.  This post was not a sales pitch.  It was a finding of an item that performs extremely well and for anyone considering a new build and has the budget for it, this item is worth looking at.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2010, 06:26:17 AM »
umm.. wow. how did this thread go down in flames..
lets stick to comparing technology.

nice build td, still cheaper than 4xSSD RAID's w/ a ROC.
w/c is the equivalent performance you get to that revo2.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2010, 07:40:30 AM »
TD started a great thread and Chalenge went down in flames. 

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2010, 08:17:51 AM »
GA-X58A-UD3R Rev2.0 - Bios FB - installed bottom slot

Now to just get hold of the $700 so I have an excuse to upgrade my Rev 1.0 board to a Rev 2.0 board like I just put in my wife's machine. Well, $700 plus the new motherboard cost  ;)
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2010, 12:30:19 PM »
When threads posted completely for their potential WOW factor turn into a purse fight, it just makes me go WOW.

This thread wins!  WOW!
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2010, 12:34:28 PM »
I'm not even sure this deserves CAT FIGHT status... hrmmm


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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2010, 06:24:54 PM »
I wouldnt call it flames... but thanks for caring so much Karaya. :)

TD the manufacturers website lists six systems that are compatible with the board. When this device was introduced I checked into it for my own machine and it was a conflict. But thank you just the same for finally posting all the relevant information. Its so refreshing to finally see some intellectual honesty.  :aok
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2010, 08:31:18 PM »
I wouldnt call it flames... but thanks for caring so much Karaya. :)

TD the manufacturers website lists six systems that are compatible with the board. When this device was introduced I checked into it for my own machine and it was a conflict. But thank you just the same for finally posting all the relevant information. Its so refreshing to finally see some intellectual honesty.  :aok

Intellectual honesty.  You made a statement that these drives don't work for the most part with most motherboards, I backed up my data yet again showing a very short list of compatible boards.  If you want to say "Intellectual Honesty", your statement saying that the boards don't work with... and conflicts... and BIOS...  By your own admission you state it only works with SIX boards per the manufactures website, when did you check your info, because I got my list from OCZ's website, and it's only a partial list.  It was done not to appease you, but to show you make statements without proper reference or lack there of.  Please check your info before making statements towards my posts.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2010, 04:21:20 AM »
Hillarious. I made a statement about "older systems" and not "most motherboards."

This is from OCZs website:

While the RevoDrive will simply plug and play for the vast majority of platforms, the following issues may arise when installing on these particular motherboards:

-Asus Crosshair IV – Please check with motherboard manufacturer for BIOS update to enable boot over PCIe.
-Biostar T-Power I45: RevoDrive is only detected in Slot 1 AND only if a PCIe GPU is used.
-DFI DK-X58-T3EH6: Not detected in PCIe Slot 2 (x4 slot).
-EVGA X758 SLI – Please check with motherboard manufacturer for BIOS update to enable Boot over PCIe.
-Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD7 Not detected in slots 1,3,4 (it is detected in 2,5,6)
-XFX 780i SLI – Bios must be upgraded to P09 (or later).

Now take a close look and you will see six listed although if you read it it says these are problem boards. I have an EVGA 780i that I tested with the P10 MB. Non-functional. So I tested it with several other LGA775 MBs (twelve altogether). Non-functional.

You have been hanging around the AH website long enough to know that most of the gamers here are using less than stellar systems.

Yes you should check your intellectual honesty AND if you are going to give product reports then start giving plenty of background information including the differences in SSD technologies (if your talking about SSDs). Lordy I would hate to see what you have to say about PSUs!  :rolleyes:

Okay... now that Ive said that... TD I like you. You keep up on the tech and you fly with us online. But if you are going to start going on the attack when really all I was trying to do was add to what you had already said... really. This stuff hangs on to the BBS for years. It will be searched again and again. Please improve your completeness.  :D
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2010, 04:23:02 AM »

No offense to you, but if someone is buying a $700 part based solely on this 1 thread they don't really need to be building a system / buying parts on their own.  It's rule #1 to building not to use 1 review to buy something, let alone something this expensive.
TD did also say "[. . .] look at PCIe SSD drives as an option (no they are not cheep)."

We're all nitpicky about something, but no need for anyone to get uppidy about it. :)

These types of parts wont be $700 forever. Read above.
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2010, 09:43:57 AM »
Hillarious. I made a statement about "older systems" and not "most motherboards."

And TD said "If your looking for a superfast system" in his original post. I believe he threw out all those "older systems" with that statement. You are confusing the issue, this was clearly brought up as information for those looking into new systems.
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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2010, 10:04:56 AM »

While the RevoDrive will simply plug and play for the vast majority of platforms, the following issues may arise when installing on these particular motherboards:


Your talking about a RevoDRIVE and I am talking about a RevoDRIVE 2.  This is where you are confused.  I am done on this post.

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2010, 12:17:09 PM »
Your talking about a RevoDRIVE and I am talking about a RevoDRIVE 2.  This is where you are confused.  I am done on this post.

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Re: PCI SSD vs SATA 3
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2010, 12:33:38 PM »
:rofl TD
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