NEW CAPTURE SYSTEM IS BULLCRAP!!!

[Simaril]

Bottom line for me:

If we had to choose between a system that was too static, frozen - and one that was too fluid, I'd go for the fluid one.

Let's give it some time, see how the community works it out, and make a judgementn later. I'd vots against an immediate change in the % required.

There. 2 cents.

[DREDIOCK]

disapointing to see certain bish squads running repeated 20-30 aircraft basetake missions over the weekend, despite the new easy captures.

it doesnt take 25 loaded P38s and 3 goons to take a base now (it never did actually), so why the horde?

Because with a horde. You almost cant loose. Your odds increase significantly that you will not only take the base. But you can toss any thought of SA out the window because you will be free to shoot down any poor slob that tries to up and fight with little no no risk of yourself being shot down cept maybe by some field ack, You get free and easy perk points because even the field ack can shoot at only so many people at once. In fact. you biggest threat is your fellow horders in scrambling to see who can get that vulch or lone/few defenders first.

Then when your all done you get to slap each other on the back for all that uber skill and cooperation and the genius that was required to co ordinate and carry out such an operation which amounts to little more skill set then the equivalent skill needed of a gang of 20 to beat up on a cripple.

Weee HAAA! WTG

[lyric1]

disapointing to see certain bish squads running repeated 20-30 aircraft basetake missions over the weekend, despite the new easy captures.

it doesnt take 25 loaded P38s and 3 goons to take a base now (it never did actually), so why the horde?

Nits were doing this last night in blue arena. It ebbs & flows no biggie tomorrow the Rooks will do it & so on & so on.

[lyric1]

Bottom line for me:

If we had to choose between a system that was too static, frozen - and one that was too fluid, I'd go for the fluid one.

Let's give it some time, see how the community works it out, and make a judgementn later. I'd vots against an immediate change in the % required.

There. 2 cents.

Ditto.

[Spite]

Because with a horde. You almost cant loose. Your odds increase significantly that you will not only take the base...

In the off hours arena on Sunday alone, I watched repeated waves of Bish missions going into a few Knit bases.  As each mission is posted there are calls of "need more, need more".  Mission rolls ... watch out of corner of my eye ... in awhile more green dots up in congo line from mission launch base, soon ... "need more goons" ... finally planner announces "it's a bust ... MISSION UP".

New target in sight, the cheerleaders and pom pom swirlers spam country channel ... again.

Many attempts, none successful.  They even lost A27 as one of their launch bases after an un-successful attempt.  Well, they might have gotten one eventually if memory serves, A45 I think ...

There are times when depending who is on and participating, the thing works.  There are a lot of times when it flat out doesn't and a horde does not guarantee much other than the noise level escalating from those on both sides of the fence.  ;-)

[1Boner]

Then when your all done you get to slap each other on the back for all that uber skill and cooperation and the genius that was required to co ordinate and carry out such an operation which amounts to little more skill set then the equivalent skill needed of a gang of 20 to beat up on a cripple.

Weee HAAA! WTG

Very reminiscent of when the plethora of alt monkey pickers land their kills!!

Weeee Haaa!! WTG   Skills.

[Chilli]

Bottom line for me:

If we had to choose between a system that was too static, frozen - and one that was too fluid, I'd go for the fluid one.

Let's give it some time, see how the community works it out, and make a judgment later. I'd vote against an immediate change in the % required.

There. 2 cents.

   Buy that man a beer!  We are finally relieving the constipation and some of you are ready to call it diarrhea. 

This may be all well and good in LW where there are 536,982 people there. It's a bit of a problem when my entire country consist of six people.

I think that you may have been stuck in EW or MW too long.  Even with the one OFF HOURS LW arena, I haven't seen the numbers top 400.  Now, I hadn't thought about the effects in those other arenas, but it would reason that it would work out even more in favor of smaller numbers.  What is it that you guys did before?  Pork and run up scores? 

I am sorry, but I had a blast flying in MW when LW got shut down and there were finally enough numbers to find a willing combatant.  My past experiences had left a bad taste in my mouth, chasing a single player around the map, until he either ditched or ran to ack ack.  When LW closed down, it was sooooo refreshing to fly to a fight without Bf109 K4's 5k ft above and La7s scrounging around on the deck for the left over detritus from the K4 pickings.

Maybe if there is a system that needs to be tweaked next, it is the perk system.  There have been ideas about coupling strategic targets to particular aircraft.  Now that would definitely add immersion.

[Bino]

Seriously? One guy takes an airfield by himself. No one wants to fight, just knock out a few buildings, ack and run M3s in. If something isn't done to adjust this I'm done. Worst thing to happen to this game in a long time.

If you're actually interested in getting the change you want, this might not be the most effective presentation.  OTOH, if all you want to do is vent your emotions, then flame on...

[Tilt]

Gotta say that based upon gameplay during euro time zones the balance seems spot on. 

As described above mass attacks have been repelled mainly due to them having a poor mix of  bomber/attack/fighter and some poor timing. But that is typical of horde stuff. Its not organised, its just big.

If an attack is well timed and organised then (unless the defence is equally well orchestrated) it should win the field IMO. Plus a fluid capture and/or recapture dynamic gives much more inertia to game play IMO.

[THRASH99]

Seriously? One guy takes an airfield by himself. No one wants to fight, just knock out a few buildings, ack and run M3s in. If something isn't done to adjust this I'm done. Worst thing to happen to this game in a long time.

I actually like it, you don't have to have 100% of town completely down like before, only about all the ack and 80-90% of it down. Sure it sucks, but in real life, what would you rather do, surrender and stop the bombings or be bombed and killed? To me, it's actually realistic...

[Ack-Ack]

I know it seems like that, but honestly, it is a wittle too weasy now.  Just goes to show you that us players that have been complaining about the game's difficulty level are in fact being objective in our analysis.

Yeah, the OP is being really objective 

this is what happens when the majority of the players turn into women.

ack-ack

[RTHolmes]

this is what happens when the majority of the players turn into women.

jeez take a day off

[SunBat]

I think having it easy is better.  It gives the war-winners hope for taking a base that normally would be out of the question and therefore perpetuates a good fight.  Last night in Orange between A4 and A6 was a good example.  The bish were defending the heck out of A6 and ghi and his crew of IL-2’s and many many other players were upping to defend.  In the past, once that kind of resistance showed up the war-winners would have moved elsewhere, but not last night.  All of the little generals were sure that we could get that base.  They were barking out commands and rallying the troops just like a real live Hollywood General.  One of them even pointed out, “We have superior fighters here guys, there is no reason why we can’t get this.  We are not superior in numbers but we are superior in skill.”  (I was pretty sure he was talking about me.) The battle raged on for hours and hours and that flag changed from white to blue over and over.  I would go so far as to that if the AH Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour.' 

Then the arena changed. 

[Hap]

Great post Sunbat!

[Shuffler]

Well the war winners are happy. I still chuckle when the base captures out pace the communication text.