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Re: Brewster
« Reply #210 on: January 27, 2011, 12:45:28 PM »
ignore what people say.....especially when it comes to plane choice....there are no dweeb planes, just dweeb sticks..............,game etiquette thats something you might want to give an ear to.

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #211 on: January 27, 2011, 12:52:35 PM »
ignore what people say.....especially when it comes to plane choice....there are no dweeb planes, just dweeb sticks..............,game etiquette thats something you might want to give an ear to.

Apologies Sir, I was unaware I was guilty of lacking etiquette, have I misunderstood?
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Re: Brewster
« Reply #212 on: January 27, 2011, 01:45:00 PM »
Easy killer....everyone pages up to see under their nose...

well I dont so I guess you can change that to everyone but Vudu.....

and to the DA point I guess since it would foolish of me to leave that remark unchecked, you pick parameters for the fight and if it suits you next week some time.
as I'm in Germany and Ive have weird hours right now as I'm flying alot.
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Re: Brewster
« Reply #213 on: January 27, 2011, 07:19:52 PM »
moochin~ I was not impying you dont.....if your new which I believe you said you were, then that would be the one thing to listen to. Sorry for confusion

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #214 on: January 28, 2011, 06:34:50 AM »
Aaaaah, my apologies. Thank you  :salute
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Re: Brewster
« Reply #215 on: January 30, 2011, 11:00:35 AM »
Hi all,

I belonged to the RAAF453 Squadron in CFS1 and 2 when they were around and we had a lot of info on the various planes that squadron flew druing WWII both in the Pacific and European theaters.  The Brewster Buffalo was one of those planes, so here's some info that we had on it:

The Brewster Buffalo was originally designed as the first carrier-based single-wing US fighter.  That was called the Brewster F2A.  The land based models were the B339 and B439. These variants were flown by the RAAF, the RAF and the Dutch.  The B239 was the export model of the 339D that was sent to Finland and Europe.  The B339E that the RAF flew had the 900 hp engine with armored canopies, and that was the version with the worst performance. 

The Dutch (Royal Dutch Indonesian Army or KNIL) flew the B339D and 72 of those were delivered to them in March 1941, but only 30 were airworthy on December 8, 1941.  The B339D had the Wright G 105A engine rated at 1100 hp.  The B439 had the Wright GR-1820-G205A engine which delivered 1200 HP at the start and 1000HP at 14,200 ft.  The Dutch had both the B339D and the B439,  but there only had about 20 of the higher performance B439 model.  The RAAF flew the B339D.  The B239 was the lighter weight export version that was sent to Finland with the same basic engine as the B339D.  That model had stripped out some of the landing gear reinforcement that was originally designed to handle the shock of aircraft carrier landings, as well as other weight saving reductions.  This stripped down lighter weight version had better performance than the standard B339D.

The B339D was the variant that was flown by the Australians in Malaya and Singapore.  The RAAF453 as well as other squadrons flew them there and did well against the Japanese Oscars that were most common early in the war.  They could also turn with the zeros when they appeared, but they couldn't climb with them, out-dive or outrun them.  MOST of the B-339 Brewsters that the RAAF and Dutch flew were destroyed on the ground when the Japanese located their airfields and bombed them, not in aerial combat.

One of the big problems with all the Brewsters, a  reason it was called unreliable, was that they all used cables instead of steel push-rods to connect to their control surfaces.   Granted, it may be a little difficult to hit a cable, but one bullet would snap it and you'd lose control of an aileron, elevator, rudder or trim controls.  Even a bigger problem at the start was that they Aussie and Dutch Buffaloes didn't have bullet-proof glass in the front windshield.  They had armor on the back but not the front.  The RAF versions had it and eventually the Aussie and Dutch ones got them too.

The P-40 was sent to the RAAF after the fall of Singapore and Malaysia, and that became the standard plane for the RAAF in the Pacific.  The P-40 couldn't turn with the zero, but it could outroll them, outdive them, and outrun them.  So the Brewster wasn't used anymore in the Pacific once the P-40's arrived.  Spitfires in Mark IIa, Mark V and Mark IX variants were also used by the Aussies in the Pacific, though the RAAF453 was sent to Europe.

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #216 on: February 10, 2011, 01:10:30 AM »
very good info, Thank you Sir! :salute
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Re: Brewster
« Reply #217 on: March 09, 2011, 09:58:11 PM »
I love the brewster. plain and simple. I love it when I get the "overconfident" spit drivers (especially spixteens) to commit. I love wearing down the BnZ guys attempts to get a good shot on me, only to make the fatal mistake of taking that one hard turn after pass 5 or 6. I enjoy the 3v1 engagements where my SA is tested to the max. Sometimes I live, lot's of times I don't. BUT.. I get better. I'm not the best pilot in the game, those that have fought with me/against me know better, but I am NOT one to need an overmodeled "crutch" to play the game. The fact is that those of YOU that are complaining of an overmodeled aircraft have a pride issue to deal with. A "hole" has been exposed in your game, and you are struggling to fill that void. Your weakness has coaxed you into believing "there is no way such a "easymode" plane could shoot ME down.". So you've decided to scour the internet looking for any bit of information to validate your supposed point. Here's some advice.. stop whining. get better. figure it out. and kill (if you can) that "big bad brewster". 

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #218 on: March 10, 2011, 02:14:58 PM »
Apologies Sir, I was unaware I was guilty of lacking etiquette, have I misunderstood?


You've done nothing wrong, let those that you shoot down whine about being shot down by an "over modeled Brewster" and just laugh at them.  Anyone that thinks the Brewster is over modeled complains as such because their ego can't take getting their bellybutton handed back to them by what is really an obsolete plane and it rankles the dead that they were out flown in their late war birds by such a crappy small plane.

People have a tendency in this game to claim the plane that shot them down is over modeled when the true reason was they were just outflown by a superior pilot. 

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #219 on: March 10, 2011, 04:28:20 PM »
I love the brewster. plain and simple. I love it when I get the "overconfident" spit drivers (especially spixteens) to commit. I love wearing down the BnZ guys attempts to get a good shot on me, only to make the fatal mistake of taking that one hard turn after pass 5 or 6. I enjoy the 3v1 engagements where my SA is tested to the max. Sometimes I live, lot's of times I don't. BUT.. I get better. I'm not the best pilot in the game, those that have fought with me/against me know better, but I am NOT one to need an overmodeled "crutch" to play the game. The fact is that those of YOU that are complaining of an overmodeled aircraft have a pride issue to deal with. A "hole" has been exposed in your game, and you are struggling to fill that void. Your weakness has coaxed you into believing "there is no way such a "easymode" plane could shoot ME down.". So you've decided to scour the internet looking for any bit of information to validate your supposed point. Here's some advice.. stop whining. get better. figure it out. and kill (if you can) that "big bad brewster". 

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #220 on: March 10, 2011, 05:46:37 PM »
You've done nothing wrong, let those that you shoot down whine about being shot down by an "over modeled Brewster" and just laugh at them.  Anyone that thinks the Brewster is over modeled complains as such because their ego can't take getting their bellybutton handed back to them by what is really an obsolete plane and it rankles the dead that they were out flown in their late war birds by such a crappy small plane.

People have a tendency in this game to claim the plane that shot them down is over modeled when the true reason was they were just outflown by a superior pilot. 

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I agree :aok  the other day a brew dropped on my 6 he came down from maybe a 3 k advantage, I avoided his rounds and just flew away from him after a bit of jinxin and he had no way to touch me, i was in K4, the brew is a great little plane but I don't see it as being "over modeled"

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #221 on: March 10, 2011, 08:57:19 PM »
I agree :aok  the other day a brew dropped on my 6 he came down from maybe a 3 k advantage, I avoided his rounds and just flew away from him after a bit of jinxin and he had no way to touch me, i was in K4, the brew is a great little plane but I don't see it as being "over modeled"
Agreed you just gotta know how to fight them  :aok

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #222 on: March 14, 2011, 02:38:19 AM »
The best a brew has ever looked.


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Re: Brewster
« Reply #223 on: March 14, 2011, 04:50:53 PM »
The best a brew has ever looked.
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i would argue that....the best its ever looked is when its not there!

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Re: Brewster
« Reply #224 on: March 14, 2011, 06:28:10 PM »
The best a brew has ever looked.
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Is that the only brew ever restored? I have Berber seen a recent photo of one
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