I3 versus I5 and AH

[BoilerDown]

An NDA must have expired at midnight, because there is now a whole bunch of Sandy Bridge CPU reviews that just hit the internet:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1574006

I read the Anandtech review, it looks like this CPU is a real winner:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested

Now we just have to wait to see how much they are actually going to cost in the short run, because I imagine the demand will be very high.  But I also suspect Intel will have a very hard release with lots of product, so its possible there won't be all that much price gouging.  I may just upgrade myself way sooner than I anticipated just a few days ago .

[Spite]

Now we just have to wait to see how much they are actually going to cost in the short run, because I imagine the demand will be very high.

I read in detail the Anandtech review and with the game results page you get:

"There's simply no better gaming CPU on the market today than Sandy Bridge. The Core i5 2500K and 2600K top the charts regardless of game. If you're building a new gaming box, you'll want a SNB in it."

I definitely envision people lining up for these.  The new "go to" chip for me at least could well be the 2500K.  A lot of articles claim a "just north of 200 dollar" price tag, but others state that this is reseller prices for 1000 unit lots.  Gonna have to see where actual retail prices settle down at.

A little disappointed with the locked Core i3's, though.

[Ping]

I've started picking up my new build. The 1155 will have to wait a few years for me though.

I have the I3 550 in my hands as well as Sapphire HD5770 Flex for video card.

They were out of the Mainboard I was after so I am going back at the end
of the week to pick it up.

Hope to have it up and running in a weeks time. 

[RELIC]

I've started picking up my new build. The 1155 will have to wait a few years for me though.

I have the I3 550 in my hands as well as Sapphire HD5770 Flex for video card.

They were out of the Mainboard I was after so I am going back at the end
of the week to pick it up.

Hope to have it up and running in a weeks time. 

You will be very happy with that CPU.

[BoilerDown]

I just pulled the trigger on:

CPU INTEL|CORE I7 2600K 3.4G 8M R
MEM 2Gx2|MUSHKIN 996805 R
ASUS P8P67 EVO Intel P67 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard

This should be fun!

[Krusty]

Anandtech is blowing smoke with that comment.

If you overclock the hell out of it, it will maybe beat a stock i7 980x in some benchmarks... but that 980x is much more able to overclock and has more cores, none of which are tied up being graphics processors or the like.

Reading a sampling of the reviews there, I think anandtech was smoking something illegal in most states when they typed that.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Anandtech is blowing smoke with that comment.

If you overclock the hell out of it, it will maybe beat a stock i7 980x in some benchmarks... but that 980x is much more able to overclock and has more cores, none of which are tied up being graphics processors or the like.

Reading a sampling of the reviews there, I think anandtech was smoking something illegal in most states when they typed that.

So you mean that a 300 dollar component staying almost on par with 1000 dollar one is not worth recommending? Ok

Sandy bridge includes hardware level DRM implemented on die by the way. Good luck with the future.

[TequilaChaser]

Sandy bridge includes hardware level DRM implemented on die by the way. Good luck with the future.

some reference material for ya reply Ripley......not that you need it...... this is for other people

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/91992/a-discussion-with-russell-mcormond-on-hollywoods-new-intel-chip/

http://www.digital-copyright.ca/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20026937-64.html

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9202961/Intel_s_upcoming_Core_chips_to_secure_streaming_movies?taxonomyId=142

hope this helps

[Warty]

Can I get a sanity check on this system? It's basically the same as the one I posted in the other thread, but I swapped in a sandy bridge cpu and motherboard, and selected slightly cheaper RAM. Apparently the drive isn't as fast (interface) as could be, so if there's another one I could get for minimal upcharge, I'd love a recommendation.

It totals out to $873 right now. (I was going to buy a Saitek x65, but since I was able to repair some old SunCom and ThrustMaster gear, I've have a little more budget to work with).

Thanks!

   

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[Warty]

I found a hard drive that's 6gb/s or whatever, only $5 more:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKX 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

With shipping and EOM win7 home premium, I'm at exactly $1k. Anybody see anything dumb up there?

[BoilerDown]

I found a hard drive that's 6gb/s or whatever, only $5 more:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKX 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

With shipping and EOM win7 home premium, I'm at exactly $1k. Anybody see anything dumb up there?

Did you pick the same memory I did on your own or because I did?  I only picked it because it was on Asus' compatibility list and looked like it had good timings, but I didn't do a lot of research.  I noticed after my order a lot of people were picking various G.Skill memories for their builds on other forums.  I really have no plans to overclock my memory, maybe they do, I dunno.

[Warty]

I was going to use the same memory from my previous build draft, but I noticed yours was about $10 cheaper, and it seemed like it had decent timing stats. But seriously... don't take my word for anything related to hardware, overclocking, memory, power supplies, hard drives, optical drives... well you get the idea

I'm thinking I won't even try to overclock the CPU (let alone memory; I didn't even realize you COULD overclock memory until this week) unless and until AH starts running a little slower than I want. It seems like from various posts that my build up there should be more than fine for AH until version 3.x makes all current PCs obsolete. (no, I don't know anything about 3.0, I just know that whenever it comes, it will use more resources than 2.x does).

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I was going to use the same memory from my previous build draft, but I noticed yours was about $10 cheaper, and it seemed like it had decent timing stats. But seriously... don't take my word for anything related to hardware, overclocking, memory, power supplies, hard drives, optical drives... well you get the idea

I'm thinking I won't even try to overclock the CPU (let alone memory; I didn't even realize you COULD overclock memory until this week) unless and until AH starts running a little slower than I want. It seems like from various posts that my build up there should be more than fine for AH until version 3.x makes all current PCs obsolete. (no, I don't know anything about 3.0, I just know that whenever it comes, it will use more resources than 2.x does).

Basic Sandy bridges can't even be overclocked. They're multiplier locked and lack the ability to adjust fsb like old cpu's did. The exception to the rule are K-marked parts which are multiplier unlocked and those are very simple to overclock - you can do it straight from windows desktop.

[BoilerDown]

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I'm thinking I won't even try to overclock the CPU (let alone memory; I didn't even realize you COULD overclock memory until this week) unless and until AH starts running a little slower than I want.

Basic Sandy bridges can't even be overclocked. They're multiplier locked and lack the ability to adjust fsb like old cpu's did. The exception to the rule are K-marked parts which are multiplier unlocked and those are very simple to overclock - you can do it straight from windows desktop.

He's right, if know you won't overclock you could save some money and get the non-K version instead of the 2500K that you listed.  Or even a 2400 while you're at it.  Also you could get an H67 instead of a P67 motherboard and save money there as well.  If you think you might overclock then your plans look fine, if you get the cheaper versions the possibility to overclock is cut off from you.

[Warty]

Ok, thanks. I thought I might end up overclocking in a year or two, so I wanted that option.

Well, here goes nothing...