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Offline geepel

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Bomber Lethality
« on: January 05, 2011, 06:48:29 PM »
I've been thinking that an improvement to the game might be to restrict bombers to just one drone.  Seems to me that a single fighter should have the upperhand encountering a bomber formation.  WWII bomber gunners often commented about how difficult it was to hit a fighter coming at them but here in this simulation it is rare that a single fighter can take out the threat if the bomber pilot has any experience.  Seems to me that having only one drone would result in the real need for fighter protection instead of a single bomber with two drones flying solo over a base hitting starts and not worrying about an encounter with a fighter.  If they were less lethal there would be more strategy then just jumping in a bomber and flying to a non protected enemy base.


Curious if others see this as an improvement?

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 06:51:01 PM »
If the fighter is flown well with patience a group of 3 buffs isn't that hard to take down, with a wingman "easy peasy"

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 06:51:59 PM »
I've been thinking that an improvement to the game might be to restrict bombers to just one drone.  Seems to me that a single fighter should have the upperhand encountering a bomber formation.  WWII bomber gunners often commented about how difficult it was to hit a fighter coming at them but here in this simulation it is rare that a single fighter can take out the threat if the bomber pilot has any experience.  

It is not difficult at all to take out an entire formation with a single fighter even if the bomber pilot is "experienced".  


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Seems to me that having only one drone would result in the real need for fighter protection instead of a single bomber with two drones flying solo over a base hitting starts and not worrying about an encounter with a fighter.  If they were less lethal there would be more strategy then just jumping in a bomber and flying to a non protected enemy base.


Curious if others see this as an improvement?

No offense, but the only ones that seemingly have a tough time in engaging bomber formations are the attackers that don't know how to properly attack a bomber formation.

Instead of asking to have the game nerfed in some fashion, why not ask a trainer or some other players for tips on properly attacking a bomber formation?

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2011, 06:56:49 PM »
It is not difficult at all to take out an entire formation with a single fighter even if the bomber pilot is "experienced".  
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2011, 07:14:23 PM »
have u ever tried to kill 9999000? That dude pings me up from 1.5k
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2011, 07:28:43 PM »
have u ever tried to kill 9999000? That dude pings me up from 1.5k

If you're getting pinged from that far out, you better revisit your tactics.

Yes, I have faced 9999000 numerous times, doesn't change the fact that with proper tactics a buff formation is usually on the short end of a stick against an attacker as 9999000 found out the times we've crossed paths.

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2011, 07:42:28 PM »
I'll post something Hitech said in a similar thread a few months ago:

Then Ill attack your whine you sniveling dweeb. Since you admit your immaturity above.

You can not even understand the basic concept that war simulation and aircraft simulation are 2 completely different concepts.

Not only that your premises of Zero's and p-51s fighting is again incorrect, you have every opportunity to fly AvA.

So grow up and ask for what you really want. I.E. you want bombers to be easier to kill because you are not skilled enough to be up to the task.

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2011, 07:54:15 PM »
From what I've seen is that people tend attack bombers from their low 6; I've found it best to attack them from their high 10 and 2 positions.
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2011, 08:16:19 PM »
buffs go down easy enough as it. Ive had my entire formation of lancs completely destroyed by 1 passing quick burst from a spitfire. The guy came from a high 10 o' clock position and by time he was at my 5 o'clock I was in the tower.
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 08:22:31 PM »
From what I've seen is that people tend attack bombers from their low 6

And that's why most die while trying to attack bombers.

I've found it best to attack them from their high 10 and 2 positions.

buffs go down easy enough as it. Ive had my entire formation of lancs completely destroyed by 1 passing quick burst from a spitfire. The guy came from a high 10 o' clock position and by time he was at my 5 o'clock I was in the tower.

For those that find attacking bombers is just a tad above their skill level, read the above two quotes and then tell me what they have in common  If you figure it out correctly, you're one step closer to being able to attack a bomber formation successfully.

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 08:29:03 PM »
A box of three is fine as is. Patience and practice is the key for fighters to down a box of bombers. There are plenty of players with that kind of patience, and therefore the patience to teach you if you choose to learn.
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 08:30:15 PM »
Geepel if you are having trouble intercepting and attacking bombers I would suggest using WGr-21 rockets as it allows you to attack to most dangerous part of the bomber with immunity and also helps the problem of calculating an interception path due to the fact the the only thing you have to do is come up behind them
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2011, 08:31:25 PM »
From what I've seen is that people tend attack bombers from their low 6; I've found it best to attack them from their high 10 and 2 positions.

This is very true. There are positions in which gunners have difficulty leading the enemy plane.
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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2011, 08:35:15 PM »
I admit that Lancasters are not too difficult to take down with some patience.  And I agree that a formation of 3 17's can be killed,  But the fact remains they still seem to be a little too lethal.  Reducing survivability may make for better game play.   For those that like to drop bombs, one less drone would not reduce their fun but survivability would go down.  This in turn may result in more strategy because a B-17 may actually need escort.  I think it would reduce the milk runs because escorts would mean a bigger dar bar and attract more attention.

I, for one, see this as an improvement to strategy.

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Re: Bomber Lethality
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2011, 08:37:30 PM »
If you're getting pinged from that far out, you better revisit your tactics.

Yes, I have faced 9999000 numerous times, doesn't change the fact that with proper tactics a buff formation is usually on the short end of a stick against an attacker as 9999000 found out the times we've crossed paths.

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