Elefant

[Mirage]

The Germans were embarrassed at Kursk.   Light Duty Transmission and 30+ Ton vehicles are not ideal combinations.   From the Tiger, Panther, Tiger II on up.   The Elefant had MANY shortcomings.

yes, most of which were caused by infantry and mechanical problems, niether of which AH has, so maybe you should look beyond 1 battle ( from which the German army did make a good fighting withdrawl from) and maybe rather then listing real life variables that AH does not account for, you could list the problems an Elefant might have in AH rather then real life, I will start you off

1. its Slow
2. it will be hard to manuver the vehicle to get a shot at close range
3. It will be easy to knock out from the air

now, lets look at the positive aspects an Elefant would have if it was added to AH
1. Great Gun
2.Great Frontal armor
3.Ideal for base defense
you really seem to have your brain stuck on the two of the Elefants bigest problems in real life

[Masherbrum]

The only thing the Elefant could do well in AH is spawn camp.  But the lack of shells would stymie a lot of folks from using.

[Tyrannis]

The only thing the Elefant could do well in AH is spawn camp.  But the lack of shells would stymie a lot of folks from using.

and it looks like it has a large width. be easy to divebomb a 500lber right ontop of it.

[Mirage]

The only thing the Elefant could do well in AH is spawn camp.  But the lack of shells would stymie a lot of folks from using.

and defend bases against GV raids, it would be able to pick off every single tank in the game before the other tank could range it in

[Tyrannis]

and defend bases against GV raids, it would be able to pick off every single tank in the game before the other tank could range it in

so pretty much, its a tank whos sole purpose would be to camp a postion picking other tanks off till it finally ran out of ammo and had to run slowly back home?

-111111111111111111+ to that.

[Mirage]

if you dont like it dont drive it

[Tyrannis]

if you dont like it dont drive it

i wouldnt, and it wouldnt want me to gv attack a field ether, imagine trying to take a TT gv field with nothing but this things camping them, if what you said is true, they could pick off the attacking tanks before the enemy got within range to fire, and also just have jeeps resup the camping tanks and they'd never have to stop firing.

once this happens the attacking gvs would complain to fellow countrymen about the campers, then send in air support to divebomb said campers.

which will lead to topics being created on here whining about how this thing is so easy to hit with a bomb, and therefore should be modeled "stronger & slimmer".


in short, it could become a game breaker.

[Mirage]

lol no it wont become a game breaker, if you look at the terrain in AH, it isnt the most "Open" it could be, the Elefant would need to be on a hill looking down to make the ultra long range shots that it could, in flat terrain with trees, It really should be quite easy to sneak around the side of it where the armour is thin

[Masherbrum]

.....Which is why this vehicle has no business being in the game.  It is a "one dimensional" vehicle.

[Mirage]

then you are saying all TD's dont have a place, take the M 18 for example, its a fast gun on wheels with less then an Inch of armor + an Open top, an M-8 could shred it, I was just doing some reading last night, and I realised that one of the Best TD's that we could get in the game is a Jagdpanzer ( silly me for not thinking of this earlier) the reason being, is that there isnt really anything "Uber" about it, but it has no major faults (for being a Tank destroyer)

[Masherbrum]

I never mentioned the MORE MOBILE M-18.  But I'd rather see that vehicle than the lethargic Elefant.

[Mirage]

I never mentioned the MORE MOBILE M-18.  But I'd rather see that vehicle than the lethargic Elefant.

i was using it as an example, as in your words it seems like you think that all tank destroyers would be a one dimensional vehicle in AH

[Masherbrum]

i was using it as an example, as in your words it seems like you think that all tank destroyers would be a one dimensional vehicle in AH

No.   I never once stated the above quote.  Only in regards to the Elefant, no other TD.   Please put someone else's words in their mouth

[Mirage]

I dont think you quite understood what I ment by that but its okay

[dirt911]

say yes to the Elefant, my T-34 needs some target practice

And when that elefant one shots you after all your hits bounce don't come and post a whine.