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Offline guncrasher

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computer upgrade
« on: January 17, 2011, 03:55:06 AM »
been thinking of upgrading my e8400 based computer to the new i5 or i7 sandy bridge. reason for upgrading is that I want to make movies and I believe the 4 core is more suitable for it.  correct me if I am wrong but the 1155 sandy bridge is better than the similar priced i5.  my current computer plays ah great with everything maxed out and shadows at 4096 with fps in the high 50's at 1920x1080

this is what I will be reusing

win7 64 bit.
810 ps
hitachi 1t deskstar
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
tempest case
EVGA 01G-P3-1467-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0

thinking of getting this cpu

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost)   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

but not sure about the mobo.  also not sure if the above ram will work with it. also not sure if this cpu cooler will work with the cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001

your help is appreciated.

once i have everything sorted out.  I will be selling my e8400 cpu, gigabyte ga-ep45-ud3p mob, plust ram/cooler if it dont work with the new cpu.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2011, 04:09:59 AM by guncrasher »
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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 10:35:09 PM »
I suspect the memory might not work with an I5 or I7 motherboard, but not sure. Once you select the motherboard, you can go to any of the memory manufacturers and run their selection software to see if that memory. (not the exact brand, but the spec ie; DDR2, etc, etc), is listed as running with the selected motherboard.

Here's one site:
http://www.crucial.com/

Just plug in the motherboard you want and if the memory specs match up with your memory, or you could call your memory manufacturer and ask them directly. I just lucked out calling Corsair to check an 8gb Dominator package, only to be told of a 12gb Vengeance package, (ya gotta love the cool names... :) ), that was on sale for the same price. Needless-to-say, I jumped at the 12gbs since I do video editing with Adobe Premier myself, (using 4gbs currently and working a tad slow but otherwise fine).

If you have the bucks, there is a excellent sale going on right now at Micro-Center, (www.microcenter.com). They have an I7-950, which normally sells for around $280.00 to $300.00, on sale for $199.99. Unfortunately, it's Store-pickup only, so you'd have to have a Micro-Center nearby. I suspect this sale isn't going to last very long...

Again, depending on the amount of cash you have to spend, there's an excellent Asus motherboard available, The P6x58D Premium:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614

There's a cheaper model of this board, which is very similar in features, but is missing some of the cooling pipes, the premium has, if you want to save some bucks:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641&cm_re=asus_p6x58d-e-_-13-131-641-_-Product

I had the extra bucks so I went with the premium myself.

Your Vid Card should work fine, and so should your Dvd Burner. The power supply will need to have the 8pin power connector and a 24pin power connector for the motherboard. You didn't list the model and brand, so I couldn't check that.

The heat sink doesn't say it will work with an 1155 motherboard setup, so I'd check with the manufacturer first.


Hope that helps,

Wabbit
« Last Edit: January 17, 2011, 10:39:36 PM by wabbit »
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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 10:20:25 AM »
Guncrasher- Looking at your setup, I'd make one suggestion.  Building systems, I've found it's a horrible idea to skimp on your RAM.  Reading again, I see you haven't chosen a motherboard yet(?)  If it were me, I'd find a motherboard that supports the fastest RAM that pairs with that CPU, and get as much of it as you can afford.  It'll pay off, particularly if you're going to be working with video.

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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 01:29:18 PM »
Wiley is right. Unless your really strapped for cash get at least 8 gig of ram with a 64 bit machine.
Even if you do not need it now you will before long. Its the nature of computer software.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2011, 01:56:53 PM by longtime »

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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 02:53:07 PM »
which mobo would you guys suggest?

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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 03:56:05 PM »
Whatever is current. I like Asus. Had good luck with them for years.

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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 04:00:47 PM »
Well, just to give you a starting point/possible suggestion, you'd probably want something along these lines:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131682&cm_re=asus_p8p67_pto-_-13-131-682-_-Product

It supports up to DDR3 1600 without overclocking.  Then, you'd want to search for as much DDR3 1600 RAM as you can afford.

Bear in mind, that's just a quick search on newegg for that socket and a reasonable feature set for what you seem to want to do, I don't know if it's good, bad, or indifferent, but if I'm reading right, it'll fit that CPU and it supports the fastest memory I could see for that CPU on a cursory glance.

If you're going to use that CPU, the socket type is LGA 1155.  Any motherboard that has an LGA 1155 socket will fit that CPU, so from that point, you're searching for the features that match what you're doing.  Since you've got a video card, you don't need onboard video.  You'll want onboard LAN, looks like probably onboard sound.  Other than that, it comes down to pocketbook.  The stuff I've listed is the stuff I believe you'd need, anything above and beyond would be unnecessary, IMO.

Someone who's more heavily into hardware could probably give better recommendations, I'm just trying to give you an idea the direction to go.

One other caution I feel is worth mentioning-  A lot of motherboard manufacturers and component selling websites offer overclocking tools and whatnot with their stuff and make it seem like overclocking is no big deal.  Basically, overclocking is making your components run faster than what they're officially 'rated' at.  Typically done with CPUs and RAM.  It's basically built around the idea that there's some wiggle room when they rate stuff, so you can get away with pushing toward the end of that wiggle room, generally requiring extra cooling, etc etc.

My opinion on it is, just don't bother unless you really know what you're doing, or can afford to possibly turn a brand new system into a smoldering paperweight because something burned out.  For the performance gains, it's not worth the risk, IMO.

Sorry I can't really get more specific to be able to say something along the lines of 'This motherboard is awesome.'  I'm not really into the bleeding edge, wring the last ounce of performance out of hardware school of thought.  I generally work in terms of 'good enough' and cheap(ish).

And if anything comes off condescending in this post, it's not meant as such, I don't know what you know or what you don't, I'm just giving my general impressions, and figure people who know what I'm on about can just skip the parts that aren't news to them.

Hopefully one of the hardware gurus will happen by to make a recommendation if what I suggested is way off base.

Edit:  As far as manufacturers go, I've had good luck with Asus, I've also had good luck with Gigabyte.  They're the only two I've had experience with in the last while.

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« Last Edit: January 18, 2011, 04:04:08 PM by Wiley »
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Re: computer upgrade
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 05:49:20 PM »
thanks wiley that's the mobo I had in mind. thanks for suggesting the 8 gigs ram.  it will be better for movie making.which is the reason I want to upgrade.  my current set up runs ah at full blast.

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