105mm sherman.

[Tyrannis]

can we please have the `105mm howitzer sherman? it would be an awesome addition to aceshigh 



Specifications for M4 Sherman 105mm Howitzer
Overall length: 6.197m
Overall width: 2.67m
Overall height: 2.94m
Weight, Combat Loaded: 31.48t
Weight, Unstowed: 28.486t

Actual Thickness, Angle w/Vertical

Hull Thickness:
Front: 63mm/47 degrees
Sides: 38mm/0 degrees
Rear: 38mm/10 degrees
Top: 19mm/83-90 degrees

Turret Thickness:
Front: 76mm/30 degrees
Sides: 51mm/0-5 degrees
Rear: 51mm/0 degrees
Top: 25.4mm/90 degrees
Gun Shield: 91mm/0 degrees

Armament: M4 105mm howitzer (X1), M1919A4 7.62mm machine gun (X2), M2 12.7mm heavy machine gun (X1).
Ammunition: 66 rounds 105mm, 4,000 rounds 7.62mm, 600 rounds 12.7mm.
Engine: Continental R975-C4 9-cylinder 4-cycle radial air cooled (15,945cc displacement, 460hp/2,400rpm output)
Maximum speed: 38.6hm/h, Cruising Range: about 161km, Crew: 5


http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/56014sherman/sherman_expl.htm

[JOACH1M]

You do relies that 2/3 of the tanks ingame are perked? This will be addin more to that list, and it probaly won't ever get added because it's a tank destroyer. Bar=M18

[Mirage]

You do relies that 2/3 of the tanks ingame are perked? This will be addin more to that list, and it probaly won't ever get added because it's a tank destroyer. Bar=M18

this is actualy used as infantry support, the 75+76 mm shermans are both, better for tank vs tank work, I am not sure if the M4 105 even had AP ammunition so it would hardly be worthy of perks

[Tyrannis]

this is actualy used as infantry support, the 75+76 mm shermans are both, better for tank vs tank work, I am not sure if the M4 105 even had AP ammunition so it would hardly be worthy of perks

even as HE, wouldnt a 105mm shell be enough to make a tiger worried?

[Mirage]

only to track it, by the time that happened the sherman would be long gone plus I would imagine that this gun would be the the Mk 108 of GV's

and if you want a Perked US tank, I would say add the M4A3E2 Sherman "Jumbo"

[Tyrannis]

"The Sherman 105s appeared in several different variants although the main version was the purpose produced M4A3/105 there were several other models - the M4A3E2 Jumbo which was a version with massively increased armour intended to be used as an assault tank in the advance to the Rhine phase of the war, the M4A3E9 which was a late model Sherman differing only significantly by the substitution of the 105mm howitzer. There were some conversions of earlier models (M4/105 in particular) especially carried out by the Canadians and British.
The Jumbo was an assault tank, the other 105 models are probably best described collectively as CS (close support) tanks, being used to attack bunkers, anti-tank guns and dug in infantry. This vehicle would only be used as SP artillery in extreme cases, that job being largely taken on by the M7 Priest and similar vehicles.
The 105mm howitzer on the Shermans (M101/M4/M52 mount) was supplied with a HEAT round although i can find no evidence of it being used, the HEAT rounds were definitely issued for the field carriage version of the same gun so it is likely the tanks carried at least a few and a penetration of approx 100mm of armour would have made this a useful round, especially in Sherman units without the 17-pounder Firefly or the 3-inch M10 in support. The most common rounds fired were HE and smoke, including coloured smoke rounds. I have seen rumours of a canister round for this gun, but no evidence so far - it seems unlikely in Europe as the Germans in the late war period if ever were not likely to try mass infantry assaults. perhaps was a field mod (suspect marines in pacific theatre if so) but most likely this was a mis-ident of a later NATO round."

[Mirage]

I am going to stop you at the part where you included the Jumbo with other 105mm Shermans, the Jumbo was equiped with a 75mm gun, and almost near the end of the war some were equiped with a 76mm gun

[Tyrannis]

I am going to stop you at the part where you included the Jumbo with other 105mm Shermans, the Jumbo was equiped with a 75mm gun, and almost near the end of the war some were equiped with a 76mm gun

thats just a quote  someone else said that found on the internet, if he 105mm has HEAT rounds, wouldnt that make it worthy enough to engage other tank units?

[B4Buster]

Doesn't the E in the name stand for "Experimental"? The 105 HE would be a great town killer, but I'd much rather use a higher velocity kinetic round for knocking out tanks.

[Mirage]

I dont know but the Jumbo saw service so I would doubt it, It could be a sub variant designation ie Fw 190 A-8/U4 a variant of the variant if you will

thats just a quote  someone else said that found on the internet, if he 105mm has HEAT rounds, wouldnt that make it worthy enough to engage other tank units?

and again, that same person said the Jumbo had a 105 so the Sherman 105 may or may not have been equiped with HEAT rounds


P.S did the Field gun versions of the 105 even have HEAT rounds? I have never heard of them being used as an AT gun

[mthrockmor]

I'm a tanker by training: M60A3 then M1A1. I love tanks, everything about them is just sexy. That being said, this game is about Aces High in the air, not tankers running over endangered turtles at Fort Irwin.

Enough of the tanks is my vote. Actually, we should have as many tanks as we have WW1 planes. To be generous lets go with the Panzer, Panther, Tiger, T-34, both shermans and the M-3 for troops. After that, we need more noobs in the sky to point my guns at. Dump the rest of them, and while we are at it spend the time and energy on the P-61 Black Widow. And we should limit time in the tank to no more than 15 minutes a week per flyer.

Just say'n....

Boo

PS Dump the whirblewind as well. And does anyone even play with the Ostwind?

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[Tyrannis]

I dont know but the Jumbo saw service so I would doubt it, It could be a sub variant designation ie Fw 190 A-8/U4 a variant of the variant if you willand again, that same person said the Jumbo had a 105 so the Sherman 105 may or may not have been equiped with HEAT rounds


P.S did the Field gun versions of the 105 even have HEAT rounds? I have never heard of them being used as an AT gun

some came equiped with HEAT rounds but there is no recorded instance of the being used. from all the accounts ive found this model was mainly used as artillery but im sure some engaged heavy tanks.

[LLogann]

Such negativity.......... EEK   

So far this tour, the Osti has more kills than the Firefly.

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[Mirage]

I'm a tanker by training: M60A3 then M1A1. I love tanks, everything about them is just sexy. That being said, this game is about Aces High in the air, not tankers running over endangered turtles at Fort Irwin.

Enough of the tanks is my vote. Actually, we should have as many tanks as we have WW1 planes. To be generous lets go with the Panzer, Panther, Tiger, T-34, both shermans and the M-3 for troops. After that, we need more noobs in the sky to point my guns at. Dump the rest of them, and while we are at it spend the time and energy on the P-61 Black Widow. And we should limit time in the tank to no more than 15 minutes a week per flyer.

Just say'n....

Boo

PS Dump the whirblewind as well. And does anyone even play with the Ostwind?

I use the Osti, I found out how to hit people at 1k away now


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[perdue3]

If you knew how terrible that gun is you would not have posted this