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Offline Dadsguns

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2011, 06:40:11 AM »
K/D > 1 starts to get good. It means that you moved to being more predator than pray.

On the other hand, if your K/D>4 it just means that you are not really fighting. To really have fun instead of just stroking one's E-peen (iPeen for Apple users), one must balance the risks he is taking with his success rate. If one is so good that he can win any encounter 9 out of 10 time, he needs to find harder encounters. Some of the best players in AH have a good but unimpressive K/D between 2-4.

I have a KD >4 does that mean I dont really fight?   :headscratch:


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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2011, 08:03:49 AM »
  I can tell if something is off somewhere if it starts to drop.  If I'm shooting good, then I'm killing well, and everything else falls into place.  I don't mind fighting several guys, only to get killed without getting one of them.  My k/d doesn't really effect me one way or the other.  I do really really hate missing kill shots on a bad guy and then ending up getting killed by him.  I'll get killed over and over and not care, but I sure hate losing a fight due to gunnery or rubber bullets that I really should have won. 

QFT. Nothing is more frustrating then loosing fights you know you should have won but for missed shots. Some nights I seem to hit everything I aim at. Others I can take the exact same shot at the exact same angle in the exact same situation and in ways where you shouldnt be able to miss if you wanted to. And nothing happens.

To chime in on the KD ratio

Alot depends on what type of flights you fly. If all you do is fly with the horde, Or will only engage when you have superior numbers advantage. Or any other kind of advantage. And avoid the afore mentioned circumstances where you dont have the clear advantage. If you never help in taking down ack instead letting others do it for you. Then you should, by almost default have a higher K/D ratio. Because from the get. the deck is stacked in your favor

If you up and are willing to fight against anything that comes along. regardless of circumstances, fly into the horde,attack superior numbers, Defend against the horde,Or just defend a base against superior numbers, up from capped bases,  Help in taking down field ack. Or fly the types of flights that usually end with 4,5,and 6+ people chasing after you. (Like I often end up LOL) Your K/D ratio will almost by default be lower/ed because the probability of survival is less.

Personally I usually look for the fairly even fight. darbar wise. One where if there is an advantage one way or the other it isnt dramatic. then I'll tend to stay in an area until it becomes ridiculous one way or the other. some nights I do well. others...not so much.

The high ranking stats are more often then not are done by manipulation and serve as no real indicator as to how well your doing.

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2011, 09:00:37 AM »
I like to try and keep my K/D over 1.20, as any lower and I personally don't feel like i'm helping out the team if i'm lower than that currnet personal target of mine.

Last tour (131) I was hovering 1.4 to 1.6, ending on 1.67 which made me feel pretty successful in helping out my team.
The tour (130) before that I ended on 1.14, just below my target shooting better but getting a worse K/D. This tour (132) i'm hovering around 1.2-1.4 currently say on 1.3 with the lowest hit percentage of them all. It's all swings and roundabouts, it's what you fly and how you fly. I fly by the seat of my pants so my K/D is all over the place anyway :)
I'm also one of the pilots out there that doesn't stick to one aircraft, (I'll fly nearly 20 if not more different aircraft a tour) I fly in defence and attack, a group or roaming the sky alone, objective missions or random fighter sweeps.

Sampling everything the game has to offer while aiming at a target for K/D will keep things fresh and challenging for me. When you consider some people here have been playing for 10 years or more if you get yourself an even K/D your doing well. In the first 6 months i played AHII in 2008 my K/D never got more than 0.40, keep plugging away and keep raising the bar a little each time. I promise tracking your score won't turn you into a newt as Tarstar says.  :D
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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2011, 09:40:39 AM »
like many said, its easily manipulated,    just fly to have fun, now if all you do is pick and "fight" from an advantage, and wont engage unless you have an advantage....well be prepared to be called a dweeb or one of the many other insults that goes with it.......if all you do is Fight any circumstance well be prepared to have people tell you you suk because your "score"  suks   lol     one thing ya gotta do is not worry about what anyone else says on how you must fly, fly to have fun....what makes it fun for you? me personely I love the fight, I love killing red guys when I am out numberd, that really PO the other guy:-)  this obviously leads to a low K/D ie not good, but without looking I think I average around the 1.5/2 to 1, I think I average around 7/9 K/H with a hit % of around 6%, I DO NOT judge someone's ability by score, I judge them on how they fight me, and weather or not they are easy to kill, or make me work my butt off. Just have fun:-)

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2011, 09:51:35 AM »


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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2011, 11:42:36 AM »
Have you noticed whom is absent from this discussion.  The guys with the high K/D ratios.  Can't say I blame them as the conversation is dominated by what seems to be opinions that say you should't have too high a K/D score.

Well, I'm one of the guys with a fairly high score.  You can think whatever you want but the truth is, that's how I enjoy playing.  I have heard how boring this will become and then I will quit, WRONG!  I have been playing for 15 years through 3 different games and I still love it.

I have been here for 13 months now and have a fighter K/D of 25/1 in total.  I love the SA, gunnery and ACM required to achive this.


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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2011, 11:48:49 AM »
Have you noticed whom is absent from this discussion.  The guys with the high K/D ratios.  Can't say I blame them as the conversation is dominated by what seems to be opinions that say you should't have too high a K/D score.

Well, I'm one of the guys with a fairly high score.  You can think whatever you want but the truth is, that's how I enjoy playing.  I have heard how boring this will become and then I will quit, WRONG!  I have been playing for 15 years through 3 different games and I still love it.

I have been here for 13 months now and have a fighter K/D of 25/1 in total.  I love the SA, gunnery and ACM required to achive this.


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Don't think they'll flame ya. The kill death just means nothing between players. For one's self it may be a measure of how they are doing if they are trying to achieve a number. Between folks it means little as many good fighters just bail after a fight if they are needed elsewhere. They'll also wade in where other's dare. The score system is good for comparing yourself to yourself, not to others.
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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2011, 11:51:17 AM »
Have you noticed whom is absent from this discussion.  The guys with the high K/D ratios. 

They are?
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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2011, 11:54:55 AM »
Zoney~its all good, like I said fly the way you enjoy.   it does take a certain  skill to fly the way you must fly, only engageing when you know you can win, and knowing how to place your rounds to hit a target on the high speed pass......but that dont mean your "good" or a top tier stick, thats for sure, just "good" at picking and running...err I mean extending.  By all means fly your way and have fun :-)   

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2011, 12:10:52 PM »
Don't think they'll flame ya. The kill death just means nothing between players. For one's self it may be a measure of how they are doing if they are trying to achieve a number. Between folks it means little as many good fighters just bail after a fight if they are needed elsewhere. They'll also wade in where other's dare. The score system is good for comparing yourself to yourself, not to others.

There ya go. word for word

I look at scores purely as a source of amusement. K/D ratios dont impress me in the slightest. Nor do ranks. As neither is a decent indicator as to how good a player is.
I've walloped high ranking players and been whooped on by players who's rank has been over 1,000. likewise with the K/D ratios and have found that many with poor scores in each are underrated and many with great scores in each are over rated. regardles of how "our" fight turned out. Some I've killed I've found are outright posers leading me to wonder how they ever got that score/rank to begin with.

Now I lay no claims of being one of the best. There are certainly better players them me. I consider myself decent and pretty good at what I do. And when Im on, Im on. when I'm off Im usually wayyy off.
Against really good players I can usually hold my own. But, I've also been smeared by noobs. Like I said. when Im off Im wayy off.

A better indicator for me is after you've scored a kill. How many suddenly go out of their way to chase you down specific, and how many  and how long it takes before someone actually brings you down.
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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2011, 12:17:15 PM »
DREDIOCK~very good post.

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2011, 12:23:44 PM »
Score can be easily manipulated to give a higher than "normal" rating.  Suppose everything about the way you fly is considered your "normal".  The plane choice, SA, risk-taking, etc.  Now, limit your fighter sorties to instances with a short trip and high propability of success (like a vulch party off a CV).  The ack is down and there are a few brave pilots trying to save the town against superior numbers.  You pick a F4U-1C and make the short trip to hover over the enemy field.  In no time at all,  you've bagged a bunch of sitting ducks with 4 20mm cannons.  Your landing is welcomed by a cacophony of WTFG!!!s on your clinic of aerial mastery.  Now your Kills, K/D, K/T, and Hit% are all much higher than your established "normal".  Do this a bunch of times and your score will pole vault way up there without your flying improving one iota. 

Don't worry about other pilot scores as you don't know how they fly.  Hook up with a trainer and they will help you improve.

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2011, 12:37:34 PM »
so since I have the most kills out of anyone in the D-9, does that mean im the Biggest D-9 picktard in the game  :uhoh ?

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2011, 01:28:32 PM »
Have you noticed whom is absent from this discussion.  The guys with the high K/D ratios.  Can't say I blame them as the conversation is dominated by what seems to be opinions that say you should't have too high a K/D score.

Well, I'm one of the guys with a fairly high score.  You can think whatever you want but the truth is, that's how I enjoy playing.  I have heard how boring this will become and then I will quit, WRONG!  I have been playing for 15 years through 3 different games and I still love it.

I have been here for 13 months now and have a fighter K/D of 25/1 in total.  I love the SA, gunnery and ACM required to achive this.


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No flame.  It's your dime.  As many have said, it only says so much.  It doesn't tell you how you match up 1 v 1 against the good sticks in the game.   I don't know what you fly, but it sounds fairly clear how you fly.  More power to ya.  My K/D hovers around 1 on a good tour.  But I'm guessing I'd give you a decen fight if we ran into each other 1 v 1.  I'm guessing flying a low 38G into a crowd of red isn't what you do though :)

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Re: Kill to Killed ratio
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2011, 01:39:29 PM »
Don't think they'll flame ya. The kill death just means nothing between players. For one's self it may be a measure of how they are doing if they are trying to achieve a number. Between folks it means little as many good fighters just bail after a fight if they are needed elsewhere. They'll also wade in where other's dare. The score system is good for comparing yourself to yourself, not to others.


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