Author Topic: The Ultimate Aces High PC? (Read 2478 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2000, 11:48:00 AM »

IBM, baby Blue, 2 gig of RAM. Need I say more?

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Duckwing6 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2000, 12:08:00 PM »

Thanks for the great advise guys!

To summ it up:

INTEL Celeron 466MHz 120USD
ASUS P3B-F, BX-Chipset,6 PCI, ATX 180USD
3DFX Voodoo3 3000,TV+SVHS-Out,166MHz 16MB 180USD

480 USD total here in Austria ...

any tips where i can buy this on the net a bit cheaper ?

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Vermillion · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2000, 01:07:00 PM »

Ummmmm... Duck make sure you read my post before you buy anything.

For an additional $30 you can get a system with a 825Mhz overclock capable PIII, and a SDR Ge-Force Card. Basically a much faster system than you spec'd out above.

To find the best prices on the net, go to http://www.pricewatch.com

For great technical articles, overclocking advice, and how too's such as overclocking the PIII550E that I am suggesting, these 3 sites are outstanding.

Toms Hardware: http://www7.tomshardware.com/
AnandTech: http://www.anandtech.com/
Sharky'sExtreme: http://sharkyextreme.com/

Good Luck !

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Duckwing6 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2000, 01:13:00 PM »

looked at pricewatch .. but the problem is none of their retailers seem to ship international.. i'm in Austria :-/

and a P550 is about 500$ (!!!) alone here
anybody know some retailer who ships international (looked at amazon but they don't have components like CPU's and MB's)

Swager · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2000, 03:17:00 PM »

Does buy.com send overseas???

Damn Verm!! Ya got my mouth watering now!!

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Duckwing6 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 16, 2000, 03:34:00 PM »

and so is mine Swager ... at least buy.com doesn't explicitely state that they don't ship outside the US .. but they don't have the P3 Chip dang

Westy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 16, 2000, 04:01:00 PM »

One note of caution with BuyComp.com.
They charge me stats tax when my state is specifically internet sales tax free.
And they will have higher shipping and "handling" charges than most which I think is how they pad thier price and actually increase thier profit.

-Westy

Vermillion · « **Reply #22 on:** February 16, 2000, 04:56:00 PM »

Duckwing find a squaddie in the US to order it for you, send him a money order, then have him ship it UPS or FedEx to Europe for you.

I am not sure of all the details, but I do know several people who have done similar things.

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Camel · « **Reply #23 on:** February 16, 2000, 06:20:00 PM »

Duck,
Checkout www.mwave.com
I bought a custom box 4 months ago with,
Enlight case
c466
Abit bm6
8.4 gig drive
64megs PC100
DVD
V770 32meg
MX300
nonwin modem
Win 98se
Built and tested

Total 940.00

Daniko · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2000, 11:14:00 PM »

Yes, my AMD k6-2 450 gets me 25 to 30fps. I want more of course, but i'm still happy. What i'd like to know is how difficult is it to change out the motherboard? If i bought a pIII on a new motherboard, will all the hardware be compatible? How difficult will it be to get everything setup etc. I have no experience with this.

Daniko

Duckwing6 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2000, 04:55:00 AM »

Ok folks thanks for the great advice!

Anyway i'm going to blow all of them into the wind now and stomp out to by a (-> 35 dumps after 15 minutes climb later ....)

Cleleron 466
Gigabyte MB (dang need new case due to ATX format .. no austrian dealer has AT format anymore

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and a Vodoo³ 2000

i know i should have waited longer and get a more decent system from the states but i've just had it with my old system ..

Thanks again ..
Cyas UP there (as soon as i have the new puter UP and running)

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Lephturn · « **Reply #26 on:** February 17, 2000, 07:05:00 AM »

Noooo.. don't get a Gigabit mobo...

Get an Abit with built in ATA66 for faster HD work and much better overclock-ability.

Also, if you can find a 366 or 400 Celeron, it will clock to just as fast, or faster than the 466 Celery will on a good board like the abit...

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Duckwing6 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 17, 2000, 07:50:00 AM »

ok how about an EPoX Mb ? (That's what i got now ..) it's slot1 so when i can afford a Pentium i can go for that one .. and you can go up to 133Mhz FSB

Lephturn · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2000, 09:16:00 AM »

I'd go with an abit or a Soyo board personally, but that's mainly because I'm an over-clocker.

I don't reccomend you worry about getting a board what will theoretically support a P3 slot1 for a couple of reasons. First, by the time you are ready to upgrade again you will need a new mobo to support new features such as DDR RAM, AGP4X, ATA66/100 etc. Second, the coppermines aren't going to be produced much in slot1, and I doubt you'll see it used much in the future for consumer level chips.

What type of CPU connection is in the mobo you have? What front-side bus speeds will it support? If you are going to buy a new mobo though, get an Abit. It will overclock a Celeron with very good granular control, and has all the other bits like ATA66 controllers.

If you aren't into the over-clocking thing though, just get a fast Celery and whatever mobo your supplier wants to slap it on. Usually the price difference between a good mobo and a not-so-good one is very low though, so I usually get a good one. Your mobo is by far the most complex and succeptible piece of hardware in a computer, so it always pays to buy a quality one. IMHO

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Thorns · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2000, 08:17:00 PM »

I too have a AMD K6-2 450mhz cpu with a Voodoo3 3000. I get dumped sometimes after 1 minute up to 1 hour and 50 mins. What causes this? Before the last patch I very rarely got dumped or had screen freezes. Now it's not too much fun .....with the problems. Great thread to all, as I too want to get out of the AMD cpu and was wondering what to get......I hope my wife wants this computer for email....lol

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