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Offline Vulcan

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Balls of cast iron
« on: February 19, 2011, 05:37:06 PM »
I feel like posting this because of the awesome job done against huge and massive odds.

Nightmares were tasked with defending A23, ~10 of us in F4F's. We lost 2 to disco's, that left 8 (I say this because I know aussie readers will struggle with the math).

A23 was attacked by approximately 8 + 6 formations of G4M"s, ie ~42 bombers, plus an escort of A6M's and Ki67's - guessing maybe a dozen escort total.

So this little band of 8 F4F's stood up to the enemy in 6:1 odds, managed to take down 15, and only one pilot was killed (we did have a bail and a couple of ditches though).

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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 06:34:07 PM »
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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 06:52:32 PM »
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(I say this because I know aussie readers will struggle with the math).


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading

If you are from the US you may be able to have a friendly Canadian read this to you.   Ask him to point out where the US is on the list!  ;)

Note:  I was originally posting a link for the 2005 results which had the US 33rd but this latest one does show a marked improvement.  Good work!
« Last Edit: February 19, 2011, 06:55:38 PM by Dantoo »
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 08:24:29 PM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading

If you are from the US you may be able to have a friendly Canadian read this to you.   Ask him to point out where the US is on the list!  ;)

Note:  I was originally posting a link for the 2005 results which had the US 33rd but this latest one does show a marked improvement.  Good work!

Nope, I'm from NZ, the country that ranks above you in all subjects and doesn't have a ginga for a PM ;) , but please carry on insulting our hosts :D

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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 10:24:04 PM »
I feel like posting this because of the awesome job done against huge and massive odds.

Nightmares were tasked with defending A23, ~10 of us in F4F's. We lost 2 to disco's, that left 8 (I say this because I know aussie readers will struggle with the math).

A23 was attacked by approximately 8 + 6 formations of G4M"s, ie ~42 bombers, plus an escort of A6M's and Ki67's - guessing maybe a dozen escort total.

So this little band of 8 F4F's stood up to the enemy in 6:1 odds, managed to take down 15, and only one pilot was killed (we did have a bail and a couple of ditches though).

<S> Nightmares

You guys must have showed up late.  We escort the first flight of G4M1 and saw vary little action. 
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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 12:37:59 AM »
 We saw your flight I think Oak and skirted around to the NW where we cut off your retiring 1st wave Betties or parts of it.

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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 12:44:18 AM »
We saw your flight I think Oak and skirted around to the NW where we cut off your retiring 1st wave Betties or parts of it.

We saw two cons over a23 that attack our bombers. That is all i know of.  where did you guys expected us coming in?   
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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 12:45:25 AM »
We saw two cons over a23 that attack our bombers. That is all i know of.  where did you guys expected us coming in?   

I got 1 kill from the first flight, and 2 from the second :)

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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 12:47:09 AM »
I got 1 kill from the first flight, and 2 from the second :)

Yea, you guys must have hit the second wave hard.  We just saw two cons in the first wave. 
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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 06:26:34 PM »
Yea, you guys must have hit the second wave hard.  We just saw two cons in the first wave.  

When you are outnumbered, flying an anemic F4F at 24,000 feet, you have to pick your time to fight.  If the bomber formation hadn't turned in our direction we might never have been able to make an interception.
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Re: Balls of cast iron
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 05:44:05 PM »
When you are outnumbered, flying an anemic F4F at 24,000 feet, you have to pick your time to fight.  If the bomber formation hadn't turned in our direction we might never have been able to make an interception.

Bomber where in good formation.  As soon as they dropped their ords and change their course, they where scattered badly.  Would have been a big mess you you guys showed up at the right time. 
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