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Offline Debrody

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hungarian Bf-109s
« on: February 23, 2011, 01:12:01 PM »
Anyone thinking about hungarian skins? 109 g-2 or 14?
http://www.pumaszallas.hu/letoltesek-hatterek/hatterek-1old.html
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 04:27:35 PM »
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 04:30:49 PM »
LOL Twin.. was just pasting that code in when you posted it for me...



I wouldn't use an IL2 screenshots gallery as a reference, in general.

We already have a G6 in those colors. From what I recall (and I could be wrong) they jumped from G6s to G10s and G14/ASs, both of which match our 109K4 far better than they match the G14 in-game. It wouldn't be right to skin one for our in-game G14 IMO, if that's the case.

As for the G2, I cannot recall much so I'll just leave my comments about the G14.

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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 04:54:32 PM »
TwinBoom, i fly that g-6 all the way only for that skin. But the g-6s we had (RHAF) was identical to the ingame g-14, same MW50, mk 108, erla canopy etc. Hungarians never got g-14s, g-10s or k-4, only upgraded their g-6s as the new stuff came out. But it was still called g-6.
We were using some italian planes and f-4s until mid '43, when got some g-2s, then changed them to g-6s in early '44. Those g-6s were upgraded during the summer to match with the p-38s escorting the b-17s.

I would like to have more 109 HUN skins couse the g-6 errr  not the best 109, and historically inaccurate for that 101/1st trueKill skin. Thats a '44 summer skin and our g-6 is a '43 model, not a mid or late '44 g-6.

Sorry about that IL-2 galery. Just to show some ideas.
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 05:01:38 PM »
There's a nice Hungarian 109 profiled in the G-14 section of the new book "Bf 109 Late Versions - Camouflage and Markings". The book has no photos of it though. W.Nr 782205, W-O+58, 1st Lt. Antal Szebeni, 101./4 Vadaszezred MKHL. Might be worth investigating further if you have no other leads.
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 05:08:03 PM »
Calling it a G6 isn't always accurate. A G6 is a funny thing, because the G6 was used from early 1943 to late 1945 and had so many different versions and models they stopped and renamed it the G-14 in an attempt to standardize it.

So many models and variations, calling it "G6" isn't always quite accurate. Considering you jumped from G2s to G6s I think you also had these early model G-6s like our in-game G6.

You later may have had the equivelant of a G14, but again there were many models of G14 as well. I've read a couple of comments about G-14/AS, which are nothing like our in-game model.


Really boils down to more details. More specifics.

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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 05:28:41 PM »
The RHAF got g-6s in early '44, they were early model g-6s, but until the summer, the RHAF wasnt in combat, they were reforming after the defeat in the eastern front in early '43 (Stalingrad). The americans started to bombing our country after the german occupation in '44 early May, and our g-6s were modernized to the g-14 standards in '44 late May. We still had g-2s then, they weret modernized and mostly stayed standby, but they seen combat when there were problems with the g-6s. So the planes what the RHAF was using in combat, was almost identical to the ingame g-14. Not the AS version, we never got DB 605/AS hi alt engines. The RHAF was fighting with the americans until '44 september, when the easter front arrived to the area of Hungary (when the romanians switched sides and we couldnt). After that, the planes remained the same til the end of the war.
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 06:31:42 PM »
I found two more profiles and a good photo of the plane I mentioned previously. I happen to be just about finished with a G-14 skin and could make this one if you'd like. It would be awhile before it makes it into the game though, as we just had a skin update yesterday.

Here's the two additional profiles I found of W-058. They're kind of chintzy but show basically what she looks like.
http://www.had.hu/magyarazorajzok/72079_48079.html

http://permastore3.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dfgtervbfr.jpg
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 06:46:23 PM »
Ty cactus   never ever thought that we got g10s...
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 07:00:07 PM »
I wonder if they will allow one of those g-10s to be put on the k4.

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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2011, 07:21:23 PM »
Yes. G10 skins are already on the K4 airframe.

That's interesting if true... Did those early G6s see any action?

If not, it would seem the skin is on the wrong aircraft in-game, eh?

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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 12:21:13 AM »
Yes, early g-6s seen action, but only between early May and late May. The skin isnt wrong, only that wasnt the tipical plane the RHAF used.
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 10:40:27 PM »
I like how nrraven made little muddy footprints oon the k4 skin.. just sayin'  :D
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2011, 09:01:52 AM »
Any skinners have inspiration to make some skins? I have pics now, can pm them, also i got some IL-2 historical skins. True, not photos, but look at this:
Bf 109 F-4 flown by Desző Szentgyörgyi, eastern fron, '43 winter   this pilot claimed 29 victories

Me 109 g-10 flown by István Fábián, '45
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Re: hungarian Bf-109s
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2011, 10:03:53 AM »
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