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« Reply #570 on: June 27, 2012, 09:05:37 AM »
ok criticism is not allowed in the US :)

Name one decent movie of 2012 :)
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« Reply #571 on: June 27, 2012, 09:36:07 AM »
Certainly not the best war movie I've seen but I did enjoy it. I'd watch it again.

Zack is right though. Hollywierd hasn't put out an exceptional film in over a decade IMO....if not longer. I think they'd rather throw together some crap in a couple months to make a quick buck rather then take the time to develop a outstanding story line.


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« Reply #572 on: June 27, 2012, 09:44:12 AM »
funny that this thread would pop up now, i just finnished watching redtails..........all i gotta say is;

THERES A COUPLE OF HOURS OF MY LIFE I WILL NEVER GET BACK!!!!!!!!!

one more lame movie in a lengthening list of lets re-write WWII to make it more politically correct films.

once i knew lucas was involved that it was gunna be trash.....i intended to never watch it, but boredom won out on this tragic day!!!!

why dont we have a "poke my own eyes out with an ice pick" smiley-con?!?!?!?!?!?!
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« Reply #573 on: June 27, 2012, 10:05:55 AM »
I watched "Sink The Bismark" yesterday Fantastic.
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« Reply #574 on: June 27, 2012, 10:13:37 AM »
I watched "Sink The Bismark" yesterday Fantastic.

you mean the old movie? or did they make a new one that i havent heard about yet?
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« Reply #575 on: June 27, 2012, 12:06:51 PM »
funny that this thread would pop up now, i just finnished watching redtails..........all i gotta say is;

THERES A COUPLE OF HOURS OF MY LIFE I WILL NEVER GET BACK!!!!!!!!!

one more lame movie in a lengthening list of lets re-write WWII to make it more politically correct films.

once i knew lucas was involved that it was gunna be trash.....i intended to never watch it, but boredom won out on this tragic day!!!!

why dont we have a "poke my own eyes out with an ice pick" smiley-con?!?!?!?!?!?!

I see you were a victim of wanting a docudrama  :)

Note that no a single historical name was used for any character.  No mention of even Benjamin Davis.  Think Ww2 made for the home front kiddies movie.  It's the only way to watch it.  It was a perfect reflection of "Flying Tiger", "flying Leathernecks", "Air Force" or any number of those wartime films.
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« Reply #576 on: June 27, 2012, 12:14:09 PM »
I see you were a victim of wanting a docudrama  :)

Note that no a single historical name was used for any character.  No mention of even Benjamin Davis.  Think Ww2 made for the home front kiddies movie.  It's the only way to watch it.  It was a perfect reflection of "Flying Tiger", "flying Leathernecks", "Air Force" or any number of those wartime films.

i just wanted a good war movie with modern special effects that at least kinda tried to stick to some sembalance of factual events..........

this lets make up puffy mushy distorted and completely inaccurate history telling is really getting lame! we have so much more information today and the ability to tell a great story effects wise compared to what they had 40-50 years ago that they should be able to make the damn movie keep it factual, it just P'es me off when they dont even bother to try.
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« Reply #577 on: June 27, 2012, 01:57:47 PM »
you mean the old movie? or did they make a new one that i havent heard about yet?

The old one, in the new film it does not sink:)
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« Reply #578 on: June 27, 2012, 03:58:52 PM »
i just wanted a good war movie with modern special effects that at least kinda tried to stick to some sembalance of factual events..........

this lets make up puffy mushy distorted and completely inaccurate history telling is really getting lame! we have so much more information today and the ability to tell a great story effects wise compared to what they had 40-50 years ago that they should be able to make the damn movie keep it factual, it just P'es me off when they dont even bother to try.

You'll never get one like that :)

Can you name me a single war movie that got it historically accurate in 2 hours or less?  And this one the director never claimed he was telling the real story.

I chewed it up for all it's inaccuracies early on too.  Then I remembered who it was aimed at, and it wasn't me so much as my little guy.  That let me enjoy the airplanes and pilots from his perspective as he really enjoyed it for those reasons
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« Reply #579 on: June 27, 2012, 04:02:14 PM »
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« Reply #580 on: June 27, 2012, 04:08:02 PM »
Can you name me a single war movie that got it historically accurate in 2 hours or less? 

I like the way '12 O'clock High' was done (132 minutes long, over your 2 hour duration limit); a lot of history, even if they condensed a bunch of stories into one single unit. Personally, if you're going to sacrifice reality for story telling, don't invent a new story altogether.

That said, I'm still going to enjoy the movie with my son when he gets old enough to enjoy it.
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« Reply #581 on: June 27, 2012, 04:08:24 PM »
Then people grow up thinking that fake movies (that didn't really need to be remade in the first place) are history.  This is a disservice to everyone.  Why couldn't the movie have been made equally entertaining without throwing historical details to the wind?

I'd argue that the movie wasn't even well made or entertaining.  I'd have to find a new word to define cliche.  I seldom turn off a film without watching the whole thing, and I almost did for this one.  I expected far more, and they seemed to steer the script, the acting and the visuals in all the wrong directions.  If I was one of the historical figures being bastardized by this bit of silliness I'd probably be offended.
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« Reply #582 on: June 27, 2012, 04:15:37 PM »
unfortunately they do imply that it was factual by saying based on factual events and then at the ending of it stating certain facts found in the historical record. so they im[ly that they are being historically accurate.

i understand the facination of it all from your little guys point of view, but the unfortunate side is that he will learn the history from a false perspective and that is a sad out come for him.

didnt the real men of the redtails squardon earn the honors of having thier history told with truth and integrity? would a touch of reality have made the explosions any less than what they showed or made the story line boring? those men lived and died and in a valiant manner, if we allow the hollywooders to tell the story in a less than truthful manner, when it is very possible for them to do so, then isnt that insulting those real men and the truth of their story?

if it was a fake squad and a fake enviroment that was potrayed with fake events and it was a complete piece of historical fiction then that is one thing, (as most of the old war flicks) but this movie uses real events, people, places and squads to tell a complete fabrication.....it just bothers me thats all.
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« Reply #583 on: June 27, 2012, 04:57:33 PM »
ok criticism is not allowed in the US :)

Name one decent movie of 2012 :)

Prometheus for one. The Dictator for another, not that I go to theater very often. And I dont care about criticism but your mistaking it for personal taste. Clearly somebody overseas likes these movies. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foreign-box-office-avengers-sherlock-holmes-dark-shadows-johnny-depp-dictator-327004

Myself? I like older movies, and have seen more foreign films then most. I'd say the amount of foreign bombs are about the same as Hollywood ones. I still watch a lot of B&W movies.
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« Reply #584 on: June 27, 2012, 05:04:09 PM »
Prometheus for one. The Dictator for another, not that I go to theater very often. And I dont care about criticism but your mistaking it for personal taste. Clearly somebody overseas likes these movies. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foreign-box-office-avengers-sherlock-holmes-dark-shadows-johnny-depp-dictator-327004

Myself? I like older movies, and have seen more foreign films then most. I'd say the amount of foreign bombs are about the same as Hollywood ones. I still watch a lot of B&W movies.

Avengers was good..so was Sherlock Holmes and Dark Shadows :aok