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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 11:25:22 PM »
I think i know who might be able to explain this.

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I think he won't be offended when I dare to say: No very likely ;)
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 11:26:39 PM »
I think he won't be offended when I dare to say: No very likely ;)

They have to know what they program into the game, at least I would think so.
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 11:27:23 PM »
They have to know what they program into the game, at least I would think so.

Skuzzy doesn't program anything in this game.
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 11:30:53 PM »
Skuzzy doesn't program anything in this game.

I don't have a "HiTech call" .gif
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2011, 11:33:39 PM »
I don't have a "HiTech call" .gif

Well he should know

but shhhhh... even himself had been proven wrong about some ingame stuff...very rare, but it did happen before  :noid  :D :bolt:
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2011, 11:43:00 PM »
Some need to make a big one for the whole team.

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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2011, 11:50:20 PM »
First test: HQ hardness was set to 0.1 x 1000lbs. One 4000lbs bomb (=31 times more damage than necessary!) precisely placed next to the HQ from low altitude. All the guns on HQ blown away, HQ itself still up.

Second test:: HQ set to 0.01x1000lbs (that's 10lbs needed only!). Again dropped 4k bomb right next to it, just a few feet. Nil effect on the HQ itself, only guns and some town buildings blew up. But a few rounds of 0.50 cal brought it down.




So even a bomb 310 times more powerful than needed to kill the HQ had no effect on it. Which proves my initial statement: You need direct hits.  :old:

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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2011, 12:15:32 AM »
I've taken down HQ with single sets of lancs by dropping 14x1000 at minimum altitude. Approx. 950ft agl. Higher and the bomb spread was too great, lower and you blow yourself up. Either way the HQ ack chews you up. Had a situation when they forgot to make an airfield adjoining HQ uncapturable on the Mindanao map in MW one tour and got to try it repeatedly. Incidentally there was no damage credited for destroying the associated HQ city and guns.

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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2011, 12:42:36 AM »
This picture shows the problem of the B-29 bomb spread:

 

This was part of a 40 bomb salvo from a B-29 at only 278 mph @ ~2000ft and delay 0.05. The actual total length of the carpet was about 3 times longer than that what you see.
More importantly, you can see how far apart the drones are from each other. The total formation width is greater than the HQ dimensions. So even when dropping 4x4000lbs bombs only the lead bomber, or at best the lead and one drone could hope to achieve direct hits.
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2011, 12:06:57 PM »
I wonder if you got slow enough to drop your gear and make your drones form up directly behind you, if they would still drop the bombs?

Hrmmm....

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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2011, 04:15:46 PM »
bottom line its like strafing a SB with 303s
only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2011, 05:17:52 PM »
                          We have been taking out HQ with single set of Lancs for years now.
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2011, 05:22:00 PM »
                          We have been taking out HQ with single set of Lancs for years now.
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What exactly do you do that?
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2011, 05:22:45 PM »
"Now, if I had to make the choice of one fighter aircraft above all the others...it would be, without any doubt, the world's greatest propeller driven flying machine - the magnificent and immortal Spitfire."
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Re: HQ Bomb load
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2011, 09:23:06 PM »
In theory, yes. But it's very difficult. The HQ is a hardened target similar to a SB, all bombs must be direct hits. Combined with relatively small size it means that a Lancaster has to fly either very slow, or use at least two passes. Both dangerous options with a 163 base nearby.
I did only one try with the B-29 yet (4x4000lbs), but I did find that the formation is spread too far apart (huge wingspan) to achieve hits by all three planes.
but if you wanted, couldnt you put the gear down, adjust the bomb arm height thingie, and get really really really really really really low? at least in offline mode, so that you could just get a massive line?