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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2011, 05:48:23 PM »
Fixed.  Unfortunatley one was missing here.

we've got a guy locally around here that flies an l-39. he's run it off the end of the runway at south jersey regional a couple times already. he's since moved to milleville from what i heard.....and i think he lost his canopy on take off a couple years ago. it landed in someones back yard.
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2011, 06:24:39 PM »
In fairness to the departed - not all of us with the means to buy an aircraft are retarded behind the stick. Not saying this guy was - but the L-39 CAP just mentioned, jeez.


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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2011, 06:25:59 PM »
In fairness to the departed - not all of us with the means to buy an aircraft are retarded behind the stick. Not saying this guy was - but the L-39 CAP just mentioned, jeez.

I dont think he is reffering to High Performance aircraft owners, but low time pilots who think they are the best.
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2011, 07:50:29 PM »
Golfer might be a bit harsh  but many of us have experienced first hand the "doctor killer syndrome". Ask Ill say is that poor devil had his TopGun moment, sadly the persons he was trying to impress are left wondering if he was the victim of an unfortunate mechanical malfunction, or just an another rich flying clown  :(
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2011, 07:58:45 PM »
In fairness to the departed - not all of us with the means to buy an aircraft are retarded behind the stick. Not saying this guy was - but the L-39 CAP just mentioned, jeez.


wolf.....none of the guys i know that know this guy will fly with him. it's ashame too, 'cause it'd be cool to get a ride in one of them.
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2011, 01:43:34 AM »
we've got a guy locally around here that flies an l-39. he's run it off the end of the runway at south jersey regional a couple times already. he's since moved to milleville from what i heard.....and i think he lost his canopy on take off a couple years ago. it landed in someones back yard.


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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2011, 10:05:24 AM »
Maybe there are "notes" in the POH for not going vertical with less than xxx lb of fuel, or throttles/speed combo ... or whatever specific aero restrictions pilots tend to forget. Maybe something came loose ... maybe this ... maybe that.  :frown: The guy's toast  :salute
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2011, 10:28:50 AM »
Maybe there are "notes" in the POH for not going vertical with less than xxx lb of fuel, or throttles/speed combo ... or whatever specific aero restrictions pilots tend to forget. Maybe something came loose ... maybe this ... maybe that.  :frown: The guy's toast  :salute

This is coming from my ignorance, but no ejection sit on those planes?
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2011, 10:38:03 AM »
This is coming from my ignorance, but no ejection sit on those planes?

military aircraft that are "demil'd" for civilian use have the ejection seats disabled.

 i was told it had to do with the fact that a civilain may feel the need to eject, and allow the plane to plummet into a populated area.
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2011, 10:46:26 AM »
military aircraft that are "demil'd" for civilian use have the ejection seats disabled.

 i was told it had to do with the fact that a civilain may feel the need to eject, and allow the plane to plummet into a populated area.

That's not true.  It's a maintenance issue for the seat and it's perfectly acceptable to have a hot ejection seat in an airplane.  It's a giant pain in the rear to maintain a proper (read: safe) ejection seat as well as a pretty fair expense.  There aren't a lot of egress specialized mechanics running around in the civilian world but there are airplanes out there that have them.

I can name at least two L39s that have a hot seat but plenty of others that don't for example.

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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2011, 10:49:12 AM »
That's not true.  It's a maintenance issue for the seat and it's perfectly acceptable to have a hot ejection seat in an airplane.  It's a giant pain in the rear to maintain a proper (read: safe) ejection seat as well as a pretty fair expense.  There aren't a lot of egress specialized mechanics running around in the civilian world but there are airplanes out there that have them.

I can name at least two L39s that have a hot seat but plenty of others that don't for example.

ok...i didn't know that. i was going on what i had been told.  :aok
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2011, 10:50:22 AM »
You are allowed to have an ejection seat in your experimental aircraft, a long as it's used for R&D, exib or air race. But you have to service it, placard it, secure it, and notify the airport manager that explosive is inboard. It's usually more money and assles that private owners want to deal with.
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2011, 10:51:41 AM »
Golfer beat me to it  :cheers:
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Re: Vintage jet crashes in Hudson near Kingston, NY
« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2011, 11:05:33 AM »
lol



well..i can admit when i was wrong......unlike some people on these boards.  :devil
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