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Offline asleep1

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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2011, 01:19:16 PM »
See Rules #2, #4
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2011, 01:22:37 PM »
not really griz, I just do not tolerate stupidity well. I recieved suggestions and comments that were actually answered in my original post.
it's caused by some of the elitist attitudes of the "old timers" around here...they see your forum join date an associate that with "are you sure you know what you're talking about?"

you just can't sweat it, because almost everyone finds themselves doing it at some point...if you had posted those pics from the beginning, it may have stopped some (not all) of the questions.
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I guess I'll add this post to the "bugs" section then
« Reply #77 on: March 26, 2011, 01:40:05 PM »
I guess I should have originally posted this here instead of the general discussions page.  This is the result of my testing as you will see from the screenshots that my speed/alt were within 1 mph and 1 foot of alt respectively.
The pipper or green + sign continually lags behind the bombsight reticule for ALL perfectly calibrated runs at ALL altitudes.  The error is more egregious at lower altitudes and lower speeds.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,309602.0.html

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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #78 on: March 26, 2011, 04:06:41 PM »
Seems your right. Are we sure it has nothing to do with the way a bomb flies/falls?
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #79 on: March 26, 2011, 04:25:35 PM »
Seems your right. Are we sure it has nothing to do with the way a bomb flies/falls?
well, supposedly in the ta that bright green cross is supposed to be the point of impact regardless of speed or alt...in all the photos posted...level bombing with the b-29, that green cross is not lining up with the bomb sight even when it's properly calibrated.
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #80 on: March 26, 2011, 05:29:12 PM »
Yes but the green cross is indicating where the bomb will hit. My point is that perhaps there is something about the way a bomb flies that is accounted for with the green cross but not the bombsight (as I suggested in GD forum).
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #81 on: March 26, 2011, 08:22:33 PM »
Yes but the green cross is indicating where the bomb will hit. My point is that perhaps there is something about the way a bomb flies that is accounted for with the green cross but not the bombsight (as I suggested in GD forum).
if that's the case then someone would have noticed the same issue with the other heavy bombers that have been put through similar messing around in the ta...you been here longer than me, ever see anyone make the same complaint about lancs or b-17s?
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #82 on: March 26, 2011, 08:27:31 PM »
There is a big difference between a B-17 or Lanc and a B-29 not that I think 50mph in calibrated speed would make a big difference but HTC has a penchant for accuracy more than most people give them credit. If its wrong it will be fixed but if its accurate often times they say nothing.
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2011, 04:33:34 PM »
You posted this:
Basically after only Krusty questioned your post.  I'm just sayin, relax a little bit.  :aok

To be fair I think if anybody had, he'd have had the same results.

In my defense, I was the one to suggest using the precision bombsight to test out if it's really a bug or just a calibration issue:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307720.msg3969420.html#msg3969420

I was trying to be helpful, despite the 'tude.


P.S. Gyrene, it has nothing to do with registration dates or post counts. It was the way he was acting that made us ... shall I say... perhaps ... "doubt his bug report." Countless others with not-too-different attitudes and presentation have come in claiming to have found horrible bugs and demanding HTC fix them.... only to be shown they were making some really obvious errors. Some folks will naturally have noticed the pattern and apply it to other regardless of post count or duration of membership.

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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2011, 11:16:59 PM »
SEt your speed in the bomb sight then set the your speed 4 mph faster than bomb sight to get perfect hits.

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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #85 on: March 29, 2011, 01:05:02 AM »
See Rules #2, #4, #14
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2011, 01:52:50 AM »
Oh! An internet tough guy! Im so impressed!

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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2011, 01:56:48 AM »
Uh oh, looks like he hurt your feelings too Chalenge.  :rolleyes:
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2011, 07:06:54 AM »
This is a very noteworthy thread with excellent data included! Let's not spoil it and get it locked!  :salute
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Re: B 29 bombing accuracy
« Reply #89 on: March 29, 2011, 09:40:11 AM »
No little Smkn I wasnt making any such claim (you DID specifically call me out). What I said was it is easily adjusted for. I also stated that you and others do not have your planes stable and in a non-accelerating state. Any pilot can miss by a great deal more than your screenshots indicate by trying to move the crosshair onto the target just before hitting town. Thats lateral compensation and it will screw up the drop.

Checking out your score I cant even see where you used a B-29 online. I can tell you if I only flew the B-29 and I had 26 sorties in it that my damage points would exceed 75 million (easily) yet you dont even have 1 million. Probably the listening should be going the other way dont you think?

Nevermind though. I also fly fighters and from now on you should probably bring a lot of escorts along with you when you sortie out.  :aok

Oh! An internet tough guy! Im so impressed!

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Funny.... thats exactly what I thought.... Wouldn't you agree Mr. Pot?

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