Kids

[MORAY37]

Plato was mortal
Ducks are mortal
Plato was a duck
 

That isn't even close to the same logic.    Where'd you get that idea?

[MORAY37]

Well for one, man was made superior to animals.

This is exactly where all the crazy that is this world has come from. Definitions of "superiority" written by members of one species.

[Mar]

This is exactly where all the crazy that is this world has come from. Definitions of "superiority" written by members of one species.

Can you tell me one animal that has written such a thing?

[moot]

This implies that all mortals are ducks (false), Plato and ducks are members of the same group, not one and the same.  Merely posting a fallacious piece of three-point-logic does not refute all points made by using that form.

Penguin, your first post used syllogism.  Syllogisms as you used em are fallacious.  Look it up for yourself.

If we are all subhuman meat sacks, then none of us has any reason to claim superiority over the other.

I didn't argue we're all merely animals, you did.

[EskimoJoe]

This thread is sad... more so than the 'previous'.

[MORAY37]

Can you tell me one animal that has written such a thing?

It is a slippery slope to define intelligence by so small a definition.  The funny thing about superiority and intelligence, the definitions of intelligence have slowly been whittled down by various members of the animal kingdom, to the point that the "definition" is constantly redeveloped as to make Homo sapiens sapiens the pinnacle of animal development.  In reality, we simply bumbled our way (as a genus) into an opposable thumb, without which, there would be no written language.  It does not mean there are no other "languages" in the world.  The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

[AAJagerX]

Plato was mortal
Ducks are mortal
Plato was a duck
 
Loaded question. If children are animals then why the outrage over treating them like subhuman meat sacks?

Ducks float
Therefore, ducks are made of wood
If a woman floats, she weighs the same as a duck, and is made of wood.
SHE'S A WITCH!!!!!  
BURN HER!!!

[CAP1]

     The thread "Kids these Days" has been overrun by a flamewar.  I won't name names but it isn't pretty.  I'm here to carry on the legacy of the once great thread, and give it new life with this piece of logic.

     Human beings are animals
     Children are human beings
     Therefore, children are also animals

     The ASPCA will put you in jail/ fine you for hitting animals
     Why then, are adults allowed to hit children without punishment? (Not by the ASPCA specifically...)

Discussion Rules:

• No dark humor about child beating
• The argument "a good spanking builds character" has been refuted, if violence is the only way to control children, either you or they are past hope
• For all those abused by their elders, your battle isn't here (feel free to post your stories though, the debaters need to know what happens when this stuff goes too far)
• Arguments about "changing times" have also been refuted.  If children have been getting worse, we would have never gotten past homo habilis

-Penguin

the aspca will put you in jail if you beat the poop out of your dog, or light it on fire, or something abusive. slapping your dog is not abusive.

 and no one ever put me in jail for slapping my shepard....the one that would only listen to me. the one that slept with me every night. the one that got very upset if she thought someone meant me harm. the one that i have missed since the day she passed.

[CAP1]

There's a difference between spanking and abusing children. 

But since spanking is apparently a "bad" thing to do, tell me some better ways to punish a kid?  What exactly is the "best" way to punish your child. 

I'm all ears.

that's it!!!! you broke the rulse!!! go sit in the corner for a 5 minute time out!!!!

[68ZooM]

[Ardy123]

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[Guppy35]

There's a difference between spanking and abusing children. 

But since spanking is apparently a "bad" thing to do, tell me some better ways to punish a kid?  What exactly is the "best" way to punish your child. 

I'm all ears.

If are parenting as you should, it should never get to that point Banshee.

That being said, in raising my first three, the implied threat that Dad was going to get mad was far more effective then actually doing it.  My daughter has since told me that the three of them always know when what they called my  "Darth Vader" voice showed up, it was time to back off and regroup.

One of the things I'm proudest of as a parent was that we put the work in and it paid off.  It got to be a bit of a joke in our house when one of the kids would ask to be 'grounded' so they could stay home instead of hanging with their friends on occasion.

[M0nkey_Man]

im a good little boy , i swears

[CAP1]

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THAT is funny!

[CAP1]

im a good little boy , i swears

i wasn't.

 i do thank god every day for the family i was given though. although i'm still far from perfect, i tremble when i think of how bad i might have done without them. the only thing i wish, is that they were still here so i could thank them myself, and tell em they were right.