Installing Win 7 for first time -- tips?

[guncrasher]

you guys may know everything there is to know about windows but you are not the ones asking for help.  before you start think about that.  give your opinion and lave it at that. 

semp

[MrRiplEy[H]]

you guys may know everything there is to know about windows but you are not the ones asking for help.  before you start think about that.  give your opinion and lave it at that. 

semp

You're right but I can't help one more comment to gyrene:

A work laptop with measly 4gb ram is hardly comparable to a gaming desktop. You say boot time reduced by 90 seconds???? My 7 boots to desktop in 24 seconds login time included and via regular 7200 rpm drive. I'd like to see you cut 90 secs off that. Not only that, what benefit do you get from faster boot? You boot once per day, you start applications, load libraries etc. all the time and those are now not cached to the fastest possible media, ram. Your application startup times went down the drain most likely - if you ever gave SF time to optimize itself in the first place.

When I switched to 7 with superfetch I could see huge improvements on load times in game maps on cod4, aao etc. AH2 ran noticeably smoother with no stutters whatsoever. Same box had XP installed at the same time with 7. This all with no tweaks to 7 and 8 gigs of ram. The ram is cached full of stuff so it can be launched as fast as possible, if you disable superfetch you leave your ram unused 90% of the time. And I'm not talking now about your LAPTOP that doesn't have enough ram to benefit from ram cache.

[Chalenge]

I agree on Superfetch. Leave it on.

[gyrene81]

both my laptop and my game system have more than adequate hardware resources to run whatever game or application i want with excellent performance...i seriously doubt your desktop system is starting up all the processes that my laptop has...it still takes 45 seconds from power on to desktop ready state...with bitlocker and windows search enabled. i haven't disabled near as much on my laptop as i have on my game system...and i have my game system booting in just under 27 seconds...with ah and ts running it's less than 1gb of memory usage...cpu usage never exceeds 78%.


why would i want to spend the money for 8gb of ram then commence to bloat it with junk when i can save the money for something else use only 4gb of ram, and keep my idle memory usage to less than 800mb...i choose not to throw money on hardware to overcome crap processes that aren't needed when i can get excellent performance for less cost by disabling the junk.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

both my laptop and my game system have more than adequate hardware resources to run whatever game or application i want with excellent performance...i seriously doubt your desktop system is starting up all the processes that my laptop has...it still takes 45 seconds from power on to desktop ready state...with bitlocker and windows search enabled. i haven't disabled near as much on my laptop as i have on my game system...and i have my game system booting in just under 27 seconds...with ah and ts running it's less than 1gb of memory usage...cpu usage never exceeds 78%.


why would i want to spend the money for 8gb of ram then commence to bloat it with junk when i can save the money for something else use only 4gb of ram, and keep my idle memory usage to less than 800mb...i choose not to throw money on hardware to overcome crap processes that aren't needed when i can get excellent performance for less cost by disabling the junk.

Why are you talking about your bitlockers and enterprise applications in a thread that's handling a dedicated gaming / leasure use machine? Does not compute.

If it was going to be a business use box I'm 110% in favor of every tweak step you suggested. Well, except superfetch since it releases ram as needed anyway - there's no down side on leaving it on. It won't even slow down boot since it waits for inactivity before starting to cache stuff.

[gyrene81]

     i love these discussions with you ripley...you have more money than sense and i don't have enough sense to get that kind of money... 

[daddog]

Gyrene, how would you go about turning those things off?
Win 7 64 bit here, and I am sure it would be a plus to turn them off.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

    i love these discussions with you ripley...you have more money than sense and i don't have enough sense to get that kind of money... 

Umm are you saying you use your work computer for anything but work? That's a big no-no where I come from.

[gyrene81]

Gyrene, how would you go about turning those things off?
Win 7 64 bit here, and I am sure it would be a plus to turn them off.

the fastest way is start > run > services.msc

there is also:
control panel >  system and security > administrative tools > services (local)

or start task manager > services (tab) > services (button bottom right)

[Ack-Ack]

Umm are you saying you use your work computer for anything but work? That's a big no-no where I come from.

Must suck to work where you do.  I play games on my work station all the time at work.

ack-ack

[TequilaChaser]

Gyrene, how would you go about turning those things off?
Win 7 64 bit here, and I am sure it would be a plus to turn them off.

the fastest way is start > run > services.msc

there is also:
control panel >  system and security > administrative tools > services (local)

or start task manager > services (tab) > services (button bottom right)

I recommend using the services.msc and forget about the task manager> services tab> services <---does not give you full control or info like services.msc does

services.msc will let you right click and click properties and see what other resources/services/processes are dependent on the specific service/process you are wanting to adjust... ( set to Disabled, set to Manual, set to Automatic.... as well as Start  and Stopping the Service )

as well as what this specific Service/process is dependent on from other services/processes

also, I would recommend researching each service on the internet via processlibrary.com or Black Viper's Windows 7 tweaking page at www.blackviper.com

thoroughly research each Service/Process and it's associations before deciding to disable it

hope this helps

TC

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Must suck to work where you do.  I play games on my work station all the time at work.

ack-ack

Lol! Good one. You have to have a completely inept IT administration if they let you install anything on your computer yourself let alone non work specific apps!

It consumes money and resources when you have to fix workstations that have been messed up with installing all sorts of crap, half of which are probably trojaned.

[The Fugitive]

Lol! Good one. You have to have a completely inept IT administration if they let you install anything on your computer yourself let alone non work specific apps!

It consumes money and resources when you have to fix workstations that have been messed up with installing all sorts of crap, half of which are probably trojaned.

pssst  he works for a game company   

[MrRiplEy[H]]

pssst  he works for a game company   

Well then it's work related duh!

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funny I saw this, so im running XP home sp3, and want to go to 7 for the exact same reasons...I have 4 gig of ram now yet XP sees I think 3.32, besides the fact my MB can handle up to 16 gigs       I was reading up on my MB and no where does it list 7 compatible, my MB is this



http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/content.php?S_ID=364

CPU is this

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=422&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=&f11=&f12=

graphics card is this....

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=137&prod_no=1662

is it possible? I am already set up as NTFS..to keep my files? about 256 Gig worth, lol well that's what is used now on it, obviously I just need pictures, work designs,and such...do I have to reinstall games? 

is it worth it? any advice? Ive  been using XP for a LONG time lol  really like the idea of 16 gig