Author Topic: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?  (Read 1204 times)

Offline gyrene81

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2011, 09:43:52 AM »
I would not buy anything for a child from china.

Made in china = gearbage.
problem is, we don't have much choice these days...by the time you look at all the tags to see where it was made it says..."made in china, assembled in mexico"
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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2011, 09:44:44 AM »
same as its always been, except you get a much wider range of price/quality these days, especially at the low end.

theres always been cheap tat that doesnt last, you just dont have it anymore because ... it didnt last ...



... I bought several door knobs and a ceiling fan for our back patio ...

did you look for the best quality, or the best price?
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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2011, 09:50:25 AM »
As they only get used 10 times a year I went with price. 
They call it "common sense", then why is it so uncommon?

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2011, 10:00:21 AM »
I would not buy anything for a child from china.

Made in china = gearbage.

I don't know the child toy brands in US, but I bet, the major of them are made in China.
Why? Just because of the profit, and the profit is all about capitalisms.

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2011, 10:07:40 AM »
What shuffler said.  I hope it all sorts it self out soon.  I just hope we are prepared for when it does.
They call it "common sense", then why is it so uncommon?

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2011, 12:10:29 PM »
There are still good domestically made products out there, you just have to be willing to go somewhere other than the big box stores to find it.  And pay the price.  You really do get what you pay for.
 
So many products are outsourced to Asia due to cheap labor, as well as a lot less red tape for manufacturing.  No EPA in China, no one protesting that the local factory is giving frogs upset stomachs, etc. The real fault IMO is the consumer, the average person wants products at the lowest possible prices regardless of overall quality.  They also sit idly by and let the politicians and the union bosses destroy what is left of our manufacturing infrastructure for their own power and profit.

Where did you buy the doorknobs that failed?  I can go down to my local hardware store and buy doorknobs and locks that would survive WW3, the ones I see at Walmart I wouldn't trust to survive my dogs jumping on the door wanting in.  The local small businessman needs your help.  I avoid Walmart for anything I can buy from a local small business.  I don't really pay that much more for better quality items, and my money stays in the local economy.  I am not saying to be fanatical about it, like sew your own clothes and make soap out of your wood ash, but if this country keeps going in the direction it has, we may all have to :)

The other problem is from an engineering standpoint.  We have become a throwaway society.  Not only because of cheap quality products, but because so many are designed to be unrepairable.  I have had to replace a number of items over the years because I couldn't repair them due to design, or the replacement parts simply are unavailable.  This for even some simple items.
 
I was raised to use it up, wear it out, and reuse it for something else. These days they use fancy terms like "direct recycling" and make it sound like it's something they just came up with.  But until recently in this country it was a way of life.  Your grandparents couldn't just go down to the store and buy another when something broke, they fixed it until it couldn't be fixed again.  But then, it was designed and built to be fixable, and the parts were generic enough to be used in other ways when the original item was just shot through.

Cars are a great example.  I didn't need a computer, thousands of dollars in specialized equipment and a degree in engineering to fix my truck.  I could set my points with a matchbook cover if I had to.  If I was stuck on the side of the road, I just had to go through the "big three" to analyze the problem, and could usually fix it up enough with my toolbox and some odds and ends from behind the seat to get me home to where I could fix it right.  The motor could be rebuilt with pretty basic tools when the time came, and when all else failed, parts could be used on something else, like a tractor or field pump, or the engine could be used to drive stationary equipment with a simply pulley.  Speaking of which, a lot of trucks had that pulley already on the drive shaft to run equipment!

Despite it all, consumer demand still runs the show in the end.  If the majority of people in this country would make a stand, and refuse to buy the crap products, and demand quality and repair-ability in products, the manufacturers would do it, because that is where the money would be.  I just don't see that happening, as most folks seem to want cheap and easy too much.  We can't even get them out form in front of the TV long enough to vote.

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2011, 12:39:48 PM »
This is why we can't have nice things

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2011, 12:40:12 PM »
You get an iPhone, get the warranty. Had to rebuild mine.

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2011, 02:10:12 PM »
Went to replace my coffee maker today.....couldn't find one (4 stores later) manufactured in the USA.  Anyone have a USA only consumer site for American made products?  I don't care if its bad, the crap I am curently buying is bad too.
They call it "common sense", then why is it so uncommon?

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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2011, 02:39:59 PM »
fairly certain bunn is made in the u.s. (with chinese internal parts)...you will pay a premium for it but it will last a lot longer than a $20 mr. coffee.
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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2011, 08:37:26 AM »
Wow, searched "made in the USA only" and found several useful sites....very cool to know that there are like minded people on top of this.  But sadly even bunn coffee makers have imported parts and assembled in the USA.

•Bunn-O-Matic (Springfield, IL): Some Bunn Home Coffee Makers (BX and GR models) are assembled in Creston, IA from domestic and imported parts. Other models imported.


I will certainly be purchasing my stuff from now on from one of these sites vs. just spending my money in another country.  I wonder what would happen if everyone did this?  It might be the first line of an actual offense.
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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2011, 09:33:27 AM »
i don't know toetag...i'm almost 50 and the decline has been so slow the average citizen doesn't even realize what's happened...we did it to ourselves...the whole concept of supply and demand priced the american worker out of manufacturing jobs, we are no longer a major producing export nation...

then in the futile attempt to "create a competitive open market" the government deregulated the very industries that are putting us in the poor house now...air transportation, telecom, oil, public utilities...and the only deregulated industry that hasn't claimed financial hardship is the oil industry...oil production hasn't gone down, yet the price for petroleum products continues to rise which is increasing transportation costs, which in the end increases consumer costs...
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Re: All my stuff breaks within a year....WHY?
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2011, 09:49:48 AM »
Very true.
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They call it "common sense", then why is it so uncommon?