Loaded Weight in the Hanger

[EagleDNY]

It would be nice to know the base weight of the aircraft, and then the weight we are adding with each variation in fuel and ord.  Display this on a chalkboard in the hanger maybe?

Just a thought....

$.02

[SmokinLoon]

or... you could be like me and head to the TA test the weights for each typical load out.

A Mossi w %50 fuel, large ammo load, and:

4x500 lb bombs=
20,517 lbs

2x500lb and 8x60lb rockets=
20,223 lbs

Which other plane do you want to know about????   

[dev1ant]

+1 

[B-17]

or... you could be like me and head to the TA test the weights for each typical load out.

A Mossi w %50 fuel, large ammo load, and:

4x500 lb bombs=
20,517 lbs

2x500lb and 8x60lb rockets=
20,223 lbs

Which other plane do you want to know about????   

lets see B-17 with 100% fuel and whatever bomb loadout you want

[jolly22]

or... you could be like me and head to the TA test the weights for each typical load out.

A Mossi w %50 fuel, large ammo load, and:

4x500 lb bombs=
20,517 lbs

2x500lb and 8x60lb rockets=
20,223 lbs

Which other plane do you want to know about????   

That dont make no since...

[Citabria]

the weight of a 190a8 no dt with 4 20mm vs the 30mm option both with 100% fuel.  k go

[guncrasher]

you guys are.. what's the word... let me think about it.

while I think about it, let me mention the only two things I want to know about any airplane.

1 is the con in front of me.
2 is the con behind me.

semp

[Chalenge]

Wow. So how the con performs compared to yours doesnt concern you? 

[gyrene81]

Wow. So how the con performs compared to yours doesnt concern you? 

doesn't concern me...it's the person twisting the stick that makes the difference...a toon that gets flown badly goes down just as easily as any other.

[Krusty]

the weight of a 190a8 no dt with 4 20mm vs the 30mm option both with 100% fuel.  k go

Easy peasy!

(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,197645.msg2309919.html#msg2309919)

4 guns with 169 gal = 9682 lbs
2x30 with 169 gal = 9891 lbs

Our airframe is overweight, our 4x20mm underweight, and our 2x30 loadout again overweight.

Note that thread was from January of 2007. Did it offline with E6B, just spent a few minutes, took down the numbers, did the math.

[Krusty]

Wow. So how the con performs compared to yours doesnt concern you? 

You load out the plane to get the job done. Whatever that job is dictates the loadout. You don't take 25% and no bombs in a Ju88 if you're going to bomb a strat. You might if you wanted to dogfight for kicks and grins as base defense.

You're not going to take bombs into a dogfight, or 3000lbs or ord on a Jug then 25% fuel.

So essentially any weight only helps YOUR frame of reference. The other guy's weight means nothing, compared to his E, alt, starting position, plane performance capabilities, etc...

Weight helps you load your own ride, has nothing to do with the other dude. You can't know what loadout he has.

[colmbo]

Back when I was flying the -17 and -24 I asked a WWII veteran B-17 pilot what their average takeoff weight was.  His reply was "they filled them with gas and bombs and went" -- "weight didn't matter, we were going regardless".

[EagleDNY]

Yes, we could all head over to the training arena with a spreadsheet and figure it all out.  That doesn't make it easy for a new player though does it?  Having the weights displayed in the hanger would show people clearly why you don't just load up 100% fuel for every jaunt, or the effect of loading up all that junk on the floor of the hanger on your Jug.  HTC has all this data available, and it is a pretty easy programming job to show 'Base Weight, Fuel Weight, Ord Weight and Total' on a clipboard for us.

I switch rides a lot - I like to try out different rides, see their strengths and weaknesses.  Often, I am confronted by the "less fuel and a drop tank" or "take a bomb" choice.  I just wish I had more data on what that means to each ride.  I'd like to know fuel duration and wing loading as well - the way I see it, the more information I have on a ride, the more likely I am to be successful in it.

$.02

[gyrene81]

considering all the questions new people have when they first come in...do you seriously believe even a small percentage are going to comprehend what all that data is going to mean when they pick a plane?

[EagleDNY]

Maybe not all - but I think that enough of us are WW2 aviation geeks in this game to warrant it.