P63

[Bronk]

You can apply that argument to any proposed addition, thus it is so broad as to be useless.

The P-63 played NO role in WWII and thus should not be in a WWII game, even if the players only want ever more potent American fighters.

Tell that to the downed Kind pilot.

[Karnak]

Tell that to the downed Kind pilot.

The unconfirmed single kill?

My god man, the P-63 won WWII all by itself!  How blind I've been.

[STEELE]

The unconfirmed single kill?

My god man, the P-63 won WWII all by itself!  How blind I've been.

Wronnn-gah! The sp16 did!  (had about the same amount of kills as a p63, give or take)

[Ack-Ack]

Wronnn-gah! The sp16 did!  (had about the same amount of kills as a p63, give or take)

Seriously?  We're not going to hash over this bit of bullscatology myth again are we, or are you doing a parody of THRASH99?

ack-ack

[stealth]

I want one. I mean I think one of these would be good for the game and looks cool....yeah.

[Karnak]

Wronnn-gah! The sp16 did!  (had about the same amount of kills as a p63, give or take)

Spitfire Mk XVI had a great deal more kills, if we even had a Spitfire Mk XVI in AH.  We have a Spitfire LF.Mk IXe that is labeled as a Spitfire Mk XVI.  Not that it matters as other than a 1000ft difference in full throttle height the two were identical as far as AH is concerned.

[Guppy35]

Wronnn-gah! The sp16 did!  (had about the same amount of kills as a p63, give or take)

LOL, keep in mind that one of the 16 skins modeled in game is for a 403 squadron bird that had 4 more kills on it's own then all the 63s built during WW2

And I like the 63!

[Guppy35]

Interesting bit by George Mellinger that lists the Soviet Order of Battle for the limited combat with the Japanese in August 45.  Some 63 units included.  One unit had just transitioned from I-16s to P63s.  Bet that was a step up

http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/George_Mellinger/soviet_order_of_battle.htm

And a quote from Mellinger on Soviet kills during that time.

"It seems the Soviets generally met little opposition in the air during their brief war against Japan in August 1945, Operation Autumn Storm, and suffered most of their losses to anti-aircraft fire and to non-combat causes.  There has been mention of one incident when an Army pilot, Jr. Lt. Miroshnichenko, of the 17 IAP flying the P-63 Kingcobra shot down a Ki-43 or K-27 fighter, while operating on the Transbaikal Front out of Mongolia..  Undoubtedly at least a few other Soviet Army Air pilots managed to score air victories, but no details are known."

[Bronk]

The unconfirmed single kill?

My god man, the P-63 won WWII all by itself!  How blind I've been.

Unconfirmed here maybe you read and speak russian?


Ohh and quit being a jenny drama... At least with me please.  Would I like it to be included? Yes but as I already stated it should be one of the last AC included.

[icepac]

If the person reporting the combat could not tell a ki43 from a fixed gear ki27, then I have a hard time believing it.

Meanwhile, ki44, ki43, and J2m shot down b29s.

[Pigslilspaz]

From what i've seen, a Ki-27 looks a lot like a Ki-43 with gear down. Have you thought of that being the case?

[Ack-Ack]

If the person reporting the combat could not tell a ki43 from a fixed gear ki27, then I have a hard time believing it.

Meanwhile, ki44, ki43, and J2m shot down b29s.

Air combat is a fast and furious thing and planes can be misidentified, especially planes that have a passing resemblence.  Look in one of the earlier posts in this thread where I posted some profiles and you can see the resemblence and how easily a Ki-27 could be misidentified in the heat of battle for a Ki-43.

As I had mentioned in that post, USAAF and USN pilots first reported a Ki-61 as a Bf 109E and a C.202, so it wasn't out of the ordinary for pilots to make the wrong plane ID.

A Ki-27 of the Manchukuo Air Force successfully downed a B-29 by ramming it, so I guess you can put Ki-27 amongst the planes you listed.


ack-ack

[IronDog]

A fellow named John Bagley lives just a few miles away from me.He Owns and flys a P-63,that he bought from Frank Borman.He also owns "Ole Yeller",a P-51 once owned by Bob Hoover.He has a few other toys,including a couple Vietnam era Sky Raiders.
I have enjoyed watching him fly them all at local air shows.I think the P-63 was most famous for it's role as a target plane for planes using frangible bullets.
I don't think John pushed the P-63 as hard as he did "Ole Yeller".Maybe he didn't trust the P-63,as one had just crashed in England during that time frame.
I don't think we will ever see the P-63 in AH,however we have a lot of toys in the game that didn't see much action,or they are modeled far from their true abilities.
The Dawg

[Guppy35]

His P63 is the nicest, and most accurate of the 63 restorations.  The folks who did it, did an amazing job

[STEELE]

Seriously?  We're not going to hash over this bit of bullscatology myth again are we, or are you doing a parody of THRASH99?

ack-ack

  just havin a whizz