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Offline fullmetalbullet

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Proposal for new strat system.
« on: April 01, 2011, 03:33:40 PM »
Ok strats now are kind of a joke they offer nothing to bomber pilots in this game and they do almost nothing when you take them down becuase you can resupply them.that should be taken out or atleast have very little effect to its rebuild time.

Strategic targets should effect the country entirely. yeah i know whines will probably come, but thats nothing new. if you drop the fuel refinery below 10% 20% 30% then it should effect the countries fuel supply, and if its at 5% then you got no fuel to sustain flights and opperations. if you have alot of territory and alot of fields then that fuel supply should be thinned out and front lines suffer. and the opposite for countries with not alot of fields. some thing for ammunition troops radar, and AAA.

In WW2 those bombing of factories and refineries had a huge impact on the german war effort. imagine if we never did bomb those targets. well heh you get the idea. the same thing should apply in the MA. me personaly im tired of taking strategic bombers and only hitting small towns with them. and im sure people who fly bombers alot are too.
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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2011, 04:30:25 PM »
People are paying money to play a game. If you take away the resources and they can't play, why should they pay? <--- and that "pay" word I'm sure is very near and dear to HiTechs heart   :D

It's a very fine line for HTC to walk. Strats are there as "targets" to be bombed. As a hinderence  to the "enemy" in the "war", not so much.

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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2011, 05:28:32 PM »

When you shoot someone down, aren't you taking away their most important resource?

They just flew a whole sector to get to the fight and you shoot them down in the first couple of turns?

You're being a meany. 

And why should my plane run out of ammo or gas.  Thats taking away my fun.

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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 05:49:27 PM »
Do you know what the factories do now?

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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 05:58:44 PM »
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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 06:13:51 PM »
Do you know what the factories do now?

HiTech

yes i do. but their back up before you land and i dont think thats should be. and yes they do need to be a hindrance to the country.
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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 08:05:59 PM »
Do you know what the factories do now?

HiTech

Actually, kind Sir, it would be very appropriate right about now for you to spell out exactly (or in general) how bombing the strategic targets effects the repair times of the radar, ammo bunkers, fuel tanks, barracks, and auto ack.   :aok

While most of us know that it effects the repair times, no one seems to know just how much we need to bomb those very strategic targets to do enough damage to cause the times to change.
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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 10:08:02 PM »
Actually, kind Sir, it would be very appropriate right about now for you to spell out exactly (or in general) how bombing the strategic targets effects the repair times of the radar, ammo bunkers, fuel tanks, barracks, and auto ack.   :aok

While most of us know that it effects the repair times, no one seems to know just how much we need to bomb those very strategic targets to do enough damage to cause the times to change.

i would like to know that aswell. but i think that they shouldnt be straight back up before you land you bombers. they should infact handicap the side thats getting their starts bombed back to the stone age.
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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 10:26:32 PM »
i would like to know that aswell. but i think that they shouldnt be straight back up before you land you bombers.


kill the city to 0% first, and they wont be back up for 3 hours.

oh wait, I see, you want to be able to shut an entire country down by yourself by bombing a refinery..


if you drop the fuel refinery below 10% 20% 30% then it should effect the countries fuel supply, and if its at 5% then you got no fuel to sustain flights and opperations.


you gonna force everyone to sit around in the tower not playing after you've got the refinery to 5%? somehow make them not log off?  :huh





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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2011, 10:58:29 PM »

kill the city to 0% first, and they wont be back up for 3 hours.

oh wait, I see, you want to be able to shut an entire country down by yourself by bombing a refinery..



you gonna force everyone to sit around in the tower not playing after you've got the refinery to 5%? somehow make them not log off?  :huh







not what i mean at all. strat targets right now are not hit that often. i see strat raids on TT but thats once a week. strat targets need to be more valuble to the country, and what i mean by the 5% is that you can still fly but your limited by fuel. when its below 10% all you can take is 25% fuel in an aircraft. and secondly hitting the city shouldnt be hit first just to bring down a strat. just hitting the factory should bring it down for an hour at least. and should be multiplied by how much damage is done to the city. im not saying you should wait in the tower. just taking down the strats should limit a countries combat effectivness. i,e how much fuel and ammo you can carry.
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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 08:26:26 AM »
not what i mean at all. strat targets right now are not hit that often. i see strat raids on TT but thats once a week. strat targets need to be more valuble to the country, and what i mean by the 5% is that you can still fly but your limited by fuel. when its below 10% all you can take is 25% fuel in an aircraft. and secondly hitting the city shouldnt be hit first just to bring down a strat. just hitting the factory should bring it down for an hour at least. and should be multiplied by how much damage is done to the city. im not saying you should wait in the tower. just taking down the strats should limit a countries combat effectivness. i,e how much fuel and ammo you can carry.

right, but 25% is about as good as 0%.. I would guesstimate 90% of people wouldn't bother flying on 25%,  so.. again, what makes you think they are gonna sit around in the tower.. they wont, they'll switch arenas or log off.

wtg! good work!

enjoy the eny!

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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2011, 08:30:12 AM »
right, but 25% is about as good as 0%.. I would guesstimate 90% of people wouldn't bother flying on 25%,  so.. again, what makes you think they are gonna sit around in the tower.. they wont, they'll switch arenas or log off.

wtg! good work!

enjoy the eny!

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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2011, 09:46:28 AM »
not what i mean at all. strat targets right now are not hit that often. i see strat raids on TT but thats once a week. strat targets need to be more valuble to the country, and what i mean by the 5% is that you can still fly but your limited by fuel. when its below 10% all you can take is 25% fuel in an aircraft. and secondly hitting the city shouldnt be hit first just to bring down a strat. just hitting the factory should bring it down for an hour at least. and should be multiplied by how much damage is done to the city. im not saying you should wait in the tower. just taking down the strats should limit a countries combat effectivness. i,e how much fuel and ammo you can carry.


I just love all these wishes for things to help people AVOID a fight in a COMBAT game.

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Re: Proposal for new strat system.
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2011, 10:06:03 AM »
Actually, kind Sir, it would be very appropriate right about now for you to spell out exactly (or in general) how bombing the strategic targets effects the repair times of the radar, ammo bunkers, fuel tanks, barracks, and auto ack.   :aok

While most of us know that it effects the repair times, no one seems to know just how much we need to bomb those very strategic targets to do enough damage to cause the times to change.
me tooo! Id like to hear it from you as well. Because some time ago I spent months trying to figure it all out and it did seem to me like it was pointless. Even if you had 20 bombers bomb all the strats to 0% you don't get much time to pork the fields after.. its true it does help done properly. But an explanation may help us understnd better.