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Offline Krusty

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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2011, 09:37:24 AM »
Actually, if ever added to the game having a selection to carry 10 troops or be able to carry supplies should be an option.  While not the primary use of the PBY, the PBY were used to ferry raiding parties behind enemy lines quite frequently.

PBYs were also used to ferry supplies to these men whenever possible in addition to resupplying coast watchers.

While I'm not denying they were used to move people, they were not a de-facto transport. They had no capability to drop paratroopers, nor airborne supplies. They would land at secluded beaches, and people would climb into a dinghy rowboat, paddle to shore, and make several trips.


Far cry from the basic mission profile of an air transport...

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« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2011, 10:13:24 AM »
While I'm not denying they were used to move people, they were not a de-facto transport. They had no capability to drop paratroopers, nor airborne supplies. They would land at secluded beaches, and people would climb into a dinghy rowboat, paddle to shore, and make several trips.


Far cry from the basic mission profile of an air transport...
but perfect for a secretive raid behind enemy lines. maybe that port youre looking to take is too far back for a mass raid? how about 3 NOE 110s with bombs for the VH and GVs and a nice PBY to land 2K offshore and a dinghy or two ferries the troops ashore? less noticable than a goon dropping troops over the tower. I'd actually back this just for that idea.
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« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2011, 11:07:03 AM »
So you want to game the game? You want to run sneak missions with no defenders? Hardly seems a worthy criteria for adding features. C-47 allows you do do what you've just described. All but landing on water.

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« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2011, 12:43:59 PM »
So you want to game the game? You want to run sneak missions with no defenders? Hardly seems a worthy criteria for adding features. C-47 allows you do do what you've just described. All but landing on water.
yeah and most idiots dont know they can land a goon engine off out of sight. at least with this they can land away from the base and let the troops do the job. second off, how is this gaming the game? third off, sneak runs are a major tactic used in this game. Fourth i'm pretty sure anything that adds to the gameplay is worthy of being in here.
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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2011, 01:07:33 PM »
I completely agree with BAR. Sneak raids are a huge portion of bases taken. And being that it's a sneak raid you could call them special forces to make you happy with the "not normally a troop transport".

Plus I've really started trying with torpedos and I like them. Yes difficult to use but fun non the less. The fact being we only have one plane able to carry two torpedos is kinda restricting to a single plane.
Same for the C-47 we only one plane to do that job and only other choice is a GV that might not be able to spawn into that base.

I think the key to a game like this is fun gameplay and a large diversity in choices.

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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #65 on: May 12, 2011, 01:31:17 PM »
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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #66 on: May 12, 2011, 01:31:36 PM »

Plus I've really started trying with torpedos and I like them. Yes difficult to use but fun non the less. The fact being we only have one plane able to carry two torpedos is kinda restricting to a single plane.

You would still have the same problem if the PBY was added as it only carried one torpedo on a wing mounted rack.



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« Reply #67 on: May 12, 2011, 01:33:33 PM »
On December 25th, a PBY from No. 205 Squadron RAF bounced a G3M Nell bomber.  The Nell bomber quickly reversed positions and shot down the RAF PBY near the Anambas Islands.

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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #68 on: May 12, 2011, 01:41:41 PM »
The PBY could be armed with 2 2000lb topedos in wing racks. Or it could have 4000lb of bombs in wing racks. And if subs ever entered the game it could carry 4 depth charges.
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I am well aware of the G4M shooting down the PBY but that is why it's a Patrol Bomber not a full fledge bomber.

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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #69 on: May 12, 2011, 03:06:16 PM »
You would still have the same problem if the PBY was added as it only carried one torpedo on a wing mounted rack.



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and arent the ju88 and the ki67 able to carry 2 already??
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« Reply #70 on: May 12, 2011, 03:07:19 PM »
ju88: 2
ki67: 1
g4m: 1
tbm: 1
b5n: 1
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« Reply #71 on: May 12, 2011, 03:08:15 PM »
thats right. oops, bad memory :)

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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2011, 07:56:04 PM »
Alright I know that this has been said before but the PBY was one of the most important planes of the war. It could carry troops and be a new transport plus it had light defenive armament so it would have some protection.

Also the PBY was known to go on bombing missions and could carry 4000Ib of bombs. Now i know 4000 isnt a heavy load but it should be able to take off from ports NOT from CV like some people say.

Now MANY people want it to rescue pilots and I know this was its primary role but that idea seems impractical for this game and I do not think that should be added for sake of saving HTC from having to figure out how that would work and people never doing it.
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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #73 on: May 13, 2011, 08:00:46 AM »
Thank you Nikomon  :aok

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Re: PBY-5A
« Reply #74 on: May 13, 2011, 03:34:30 PM »
and arent the ju88 and the ki67 able to carry 2 already??

Demon's idea is to add the PBY which can carry x2 2k torps (SBD carries 1).  The only problem I see with that is that one PBY could sink a CV in one pass (assuming both torpedoes hit).  But that would only make it a more popular plane.  I still think it's a good idea.