Bombsite question to the AVA community

[captain1ma]

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,312985.0.html

[grumpy37]

I personally prefer the manual way.  I was bummed when they switched to the laser guided system in the other arenas.  Ive talked with a few players in the past that agree.  Im not sure if it would keep anyone out but maybe you should ask the bomber squads?  I would be the vast majority of players dont even know AvA uses manual. 

[tmetal]

I'm not in the AVA very much so take my opinion for what you feel it is worth.  I like the manual method in AVA just to get a change of pace from the MA's.  I did like to bomb but the last few times I was in there (was flying the stuka, so it has been a little while) the object hardness had been raised and it just felt like I was flying a target drone with no way to accomplish destroying something, big turn off personaly.

I'll stop now.

[Puma44]

What's a bomb site?   Just kidding!  Whatever the majority wants.... 

[gldnbb]

I enjoy the manual method,  as it lends real-time practice (with a purpose in the AvA vs. offline) for the special events.  Other's skill levels will increase, and may recruit more bomber pilots to make up for the longer time required to make repeated bombing passes on a target.

[CAP1]

i like the manual calibration....but if it helps the arena, then the other one is ok by me too.

[Rolex]

I would think that the same reason the precision bombsight was eliminated in the main arenas would apply in the AvA arena. My understanding is that it was eliminated so calibration accuracy was not dependent on the accuracy of the individual player's controller.

[Chilli]

Good to know the intentions behind taking it out of the Main Arenas.  Also, good to know that I am not alone with those who like having to use it in an arena where missions don't run 24/7 to shut down the opponents strats.  Usually, when bombing is an objective goal of a setup, the CM makes the call to enable "autocalibration" or not. 

Although, not like either, I would say that the AvA has more in common with the weekly FSOs and other special events than any of the 24/7 MAs.  Two countries and historically inspired plane match ups, are given top consideration for setups and we still do not have the tools to effectively promote any type of "win the war" gameplay.

[CAP1]

Good to know the intentions behind taking it out of the Main Arenas.  Also, good to know that I am not alone with those who like having to use it in an arena where missions don't run 24/7 to shut down the opponents strats.  Usually, when bombing is an objective goal of a setup, the CM makes the call to enable "autocalibration" or not. 

Although, not like either, I would say that the AvA has more in common with the weekly FSOs and other special events than any of the 24/7 MAs.  Two countries and historically inspired plane match ups, are given top consideration for setups and we still do not have the tools to effectively promote any type of "win the war" gameplay.

 the main reason i like the manual sight, is the same reason i'll take a p38 into a furball on the deck against a bunch of 109's and 190's.....and i've done that a lot......but i like the challenge, regardless if i hit or not. the auto sight......whelp.......point n click.......if ya miss with that one, ya need new glasses. 

[grumpy37]

i personally think the reason of players "equipment" being an issue for calibration was bogus and just an excuse.  I personally think the "newer" younger players we have now are to lazy to learn the complicated manual method of bombing.  They are a "point and click" generation and refuse to do it any other way.  From a business standpoint HTC has to conform to what the majority of players are willing to pay for or they will stop paying for it.  I started playing this game 10+ years ago with a cheapy stick and never had an issue calibrating my bombers.  Then again i took the time to learn how to do it.  Ive always viewed the AvA as an arena thats above the skill level required to play in the MA's which was my personal reason for becoming a regular in the arena.  I enjoy flying with and against players that take the "game" to the next level.   

We will never see the numbers that the LW arena see's because the super ubber easy to fly planes are not available for the most part and those players are unwilling to come out of their comfort zone and learn somehting new.  Personally flying in the AvA has taken my game to the next level by forcing me to fly the "harder" planes and has made it fun again.  I find myself flying these planes in the MW arena, even though they are more challenging and having a blast doing it. 

[gldnbb]

I'll add to the  'new generation'  thoughts by  adding that gossip spreads to other people letting them know this game is 'hard to bomb'.  

Back when I flew Warbirds,  a guy who played AH and did manual calibration gave me his impression of bombing in AH.  He flew both sims and said the AH method was very complicated and you were 'barely lucky' to hit a target.   Well,  guess what,   after practice  (which requires actual effort for those new generations)    I am able to manually bomb targets with good success.   The only difference is setting up your flight, speed etc.

Warbirds is a point and click bombing method, a 6th grade skill level  much much easier than to AH  autocalibration,  where you just get into bombadier mode and it will laser sight line up your target and you can jockey the throttle around,  do impossible flips,   then pull throttle back to idle,  glide,  and still hit all your tiny targets.   Wow.

Stepping into AH,  there's a pre planning concept that one must adopt to be successful,    once you accept pre planning,  you are successful in AH's  Auto calibration and manual calibration.     Now I find both  easy!  It's just about pre planning.    Ok, you may not be able to hit as many targets in a single pass,  but it is easy to aim and drop.   Just requires more bombers to achieve victory in killing all FH/BH/VH/s....     That's the decision point on how fast or easy you want someone to win the war.

That should be the selling point anyone tells you that manual calibration is too hard,  tell them it gets easy once you practice planning the approach.   Offer them help to see the light.   Also tell them FSO and Saturday events   are the premium, and consider the AvA arena a good place to practice for these events.

[grumpy37]

^^^^^^^^^  well put