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Offline Mister Fork

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Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« on: May 27, 2011, 10:55:27 PM »

The 8th Comes Over

Setup by Shifty

By Summer 1943 the North African campaign was over and the build-up in Britain was renewed. Targets were switched to the aircraft, ball bearing and oil production centers. Unfortunately enemy defences had also been reinforced so that by the end of 1943 there were three times as many fighters opposing the 8th AF than there were in January 1943. The Luftwaffe were also constantly inventing new tactics to damage the bomber formations.
In mid 1942 38 percent of German fighters were on the western front but by Spring 1943 this rose to 45 percent. The Eastern front figures for the same period fell from 43 percent  to only 27 percent. The B-17s and B-24s had extra armour and forward firing turrets added and some of the fiercest battles occurred in Autumn 1943. One year after that first raid on Rouen a massive two-pronged attack was mounted against Schweinfurt, where half of Germany's ball bearings were produced, and the Regensburg Messerschmitt factory. On 17 August 1943 the 1st and 3rd Bomb Divisions launched 367 B-17s and faced almost continuous opposition on route  60 bombers were lost or 16 percent of the total launched. Schweinfurt was attacked again on 14 October 1943 with 291 planes and 67 B-17s were destroyed. Just over the Dutch border their escorts turned back at maximum range and 300 Luftwaffe fighters attacked, resulting in 23 percent losses. Such losses were unsustainable and these deep penetration raids were stopped. However enemy fighter production had been cut in half and Luftwaffe turnover was 150 percent in 1943 with 3000 trained pilots lost. Their average battle strength was 2100 pilots and machines. It is possible to see from today's perspective that the Luftwaffe was now declining in numbers and quality whilst the vast fully mobilised and attack-free American economy was still turning out B-17s and B-24s in growing numbers. The bombing also caused immense enemy resources to be devoted to air defence, estimated to amount to one million men and 31,000 guns, that otherwise could have been at the front lines. The USAAF knew that the bombers needed fighter escorts and efforts were extended to increase their range. External droptanks were added to the P-47s. In late 1943 P-38Hs with drop tanks arrived in numbers, as well as the first P-38Js arriving in December.

 On 3 November 1943 the 8th AF flew its first 500 bomber raid and devastated the port of Wilhelmshaven.The longer legs of the Thunderbolts and Lightnings gave JG-1 quite a wake up call as the heavies took advantage of fighter escort for the first time during the last leg of the route. Naturally the Luftwaffe was unaware that the USAAF possessed a fighter that could reach this far into occupied Europe and reacted to the bomber force as it had done in the past. JG-1 sent up a mixed force of Bf-109Gs and Fw-190As to intercept the Americans over Holland. By the time the action had finished the Luftwaffe fighters had not only failed to inflict significant damage on the bombers, they themselves had been badly mauled. Thirteen fighters were reported lost by JG-1 during this engagement (four Fw-190As and nine Bf-109Gs). P-47 pilots of the 4th, 56th and 78th accounted for six German fighters leaving the remaining seven to the P-38s of the 55th FG. By 13 December they could send 649 bombers to Bremen, Hamburg and Kiel, and 763 to Frankfurt in January. Notice was served that the air war over Europe was now entering a much more difficult phase for the Luftwaffe fighter force.

This setup is focused on the Fall 1943/Early Winter 1944.

The P51 is yet to make it's impact. P-47Ds from the 4th 56th 78th 352nd 355th Fighter Groups and  P-38Hs and Js from the 20th 55th and 479th Fighter Groups using drop tanks do their best to protect 8th AF Bombers from the Luftwaffe. Channel based Jagdgeschwaders JG-2 JG-3 JG-26 and JG-27 along with the defenders of the Dutch and German North Sea coastlines JG-1 and JG-11 are forced to deal with the new threat of long range escorts when intercepting the USAAF B-17s and B-24s.

Setup:

Allied= Bishops.

Aircraft:
B-17
B-24
B-26
B-25H
P-47D11
P-38G (P-38H sub)
P-38J

GVs
M-16

Axis= Knights

Aircraft:
BF-109G2
BF-109G6
BF-110G2
FW-190A5

GVs
Ostwind


ARENA SETTINGS
MAP: BOB09
Bombsight Main Arena Mode
Killshooter is on.
Visibility is 12.0 miles
Fuel burn rate is 1.0
Ack settings are .25
Base capture: None
Radar (1943-med)
Sector 105600
Tower 52800
Enemy Icons Off
Friendly Icons 4K
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 11:27:34 PM »
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 03:53:01 AM »
 :aok  I got an email from C4 today and I hope that we can get together along with Seadog, today sometime and fly JUGs or whatever as a group.  Since we have been formed for over a month we have had little opportunity to get an actual unit mission in. 

Guys I am wishing that everyone has a safe holiday weekend.  I would also appreciate some company online if you can find some time to come in and check us out in the AvA  :salute

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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 02:47:02 PM »
small request:

when typing out the arena message, can the proper skin name be placed next the the planes name in the planes roster(if we have it)? so we can fly the most accurate skin. :salute

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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 05:51:33 PM »
small request:

when typing out the arena message, can the proper skin name be placed next the the planes name in the planes roster(if we have it)? so we can fly the most accurate skin. :salute

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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 10:20:04 PM »
small request:

when typing out the arena message, can the proper skin name be placed next the the planes name in the planes roster(if we have it)? so we can fly the most accurate skin. :salute


Geez.  You guys are supposed to know this, or figure it out!  That's part of the history aspect of AvA!  Use your Google thing to look up the different groups, it's actually quite a bit of fun (and for those of you lucky enough to have a copy of Roger Freeman's "The Mighty Eighth," look at all the plates in the back).

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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 07:16:49 AM »
+1  :aok

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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2011, 07:21:45 AM »
Do you think we could have the G-14 and give them the d-25, I have to have something with ze tater.  :devil
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 09:04:45 AM »
btw - I have an easter egg in this setup.  Can someone guess what it is? (and it has to do with Canucks).
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 04:11:57 PM »
btw - I have an easter egg in this setup.  Can someone guess what it is? (and it has to do with Canucks).

i dunno if it relates to the wind or the extremely hazy conditions... but i don't care for either.  :noid
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2011, 09:52:39 PM »
Phppt.  :D

Come to think of it... I've added:
- mossie
- spit v (both RCAF)
- easy bomb and dive sights

Let me know how u guys like it
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2011, 06:32:49 AM »
Some of us already do know but...The reality is many that don't wont bother to goggle it when they log in to fly .. listing it gives a better chance that more will use the correct skin helping to create a more immersing environment and they might learn something at the same time.

 If after they fly they choose to drill down with further research they can in books or goggle.

I think listing the skin type would be a good way urge pepole to use the correct skin type in set ups
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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2011, 09:31:20 AM »
Isn't wind and haze a fairly typical weather scenario for the region?



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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 05:06:34 PM »
Yeah! This was great, had some fun and challenging D-11 jug sorties~ the realistic overcast made it especially hard to see targets below you, slow turning w 109s u have to be pretty lucky to get away. Out to sea again for a while, Big <S> to the generally civil and gentlemanly players in the arena. Makes it a pleasure killing and dying in good company :salute

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Re: Up this week: The 8th Comes Over
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 09:52:31 PM »
I understand having the MA type bomb calibration, but is the green bomb hit crosshair from the TA suppose to be there? It makes it to where you don't even need to calibrate, the green crosshair tells you exactly where the bomb will hit. Thought I would mention it just in case it isn't suppose to be included in this setup.
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