Happy Birthday, baby

[VonMessa]

May I add the fact that the wings are a little short, what makes it fly is that huge engine, not sayings its crap i said Flying Characteristics were a joke, I never doubted its flying ability.

Really?

Such a thing could never fly   Unless you just put a ton of power to it. Looks like gliding characteristics would be anything short of a joke, but hey what do I know.

I guess it was that statement that confused me...

Unless you consider to 20-30 hp of a Righter opposed-twin geared-down 2-stroke a "ton of power"

Oh, yeah. Happy Birthday,  Norma Jean Dougherty  

[dedalos]

I never doubted its flying ability.

So, what did you mean by "could never fly?"

[F22RaptorDude]

When I used the  Face I was joking. I looked at the wings and saw how small they looked at the camera angle.

[Reaper90]

Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.







Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. 

[F22RaptorDude]

Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.

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Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. 

You know the Ironic thing is I knew that would be brought up, and even more ironic i'm watching a show about it. 

[ScottyK]

 get rid of the badger and change it to a short bus

[Puma44]

Taking a good look at it can make a person assume, you don't need insult a person who's wrong, makes you look like a troll. Just saying.

Ahhhh, there's no insult here, just asking a couple of questions, that you still haven't answered.  Just asking.

You seem to have a genuine interest in things that fly.  There is a wealth of knowledge in here about most anything one could want to know about concerning aviation, and more.  If you spent a little time researching versus making off the cuff statements that demonstrate nothing more than ignorance, you might gain some credibility and learn something in the process.  Just observing.  

[Tyrannis]

Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.

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Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. 

i was watching the Military channel's "top ten" episode about fighters. and they had the f4 phantom on there.

they had an old phantom pilot. who said because of the shape of the phantom(especially its wing) it was technically aerodynamically impossible to fly due to how much drag the shape of its body created.
and its only because of the 2 giant engines pushing it through the sky that it was ever able to actually sustain flight.
(bsically they said it was nothing more than a giant greyhound bus with 2 big engines strapped to the back that made it go very fast).


point is, apparently it doesnt matter about the shape of the aircraft. if you got a strong enough engine on it to push it through the sky, it can sustain flight. least i think that was the point 

[Ack-Ack]

they had an old phantom pilot. who said because of the shape of the phantom(especially its wing) it was technically aerodynamically impossible to fly due to how much drag the shape of its body created.

Not true, the wings were not "aerodynamically impossible to fly".  The plane was big and heavy, that's why it needed those two powerful engines to push it through sky and not because the wings were not able to get any lift due to their design.

ack-ack

[sunfan1121]

Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.

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Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. 

It did have a tendency to fall out of the sky. Didn't the F104 almost kill Chuck Yeager?

[Puma44]

i was watching the Military channel's "top ten" episode about fighters. and they had the f4 phantom on there.

they had an old phantom pilot. who said because of the shape of the phantom(especially its wing) it was technically aerodynamically impossible to fly due to how much drag the shape of its body created.
and its only because of the 2 giant engines pushing it through the sky that it was ever able to actually sustain flight.
(bsically they said it was nothing more than a giant greyhound bus with 2 big engines strapped to the back that made it go very fast).


point is, apparently it doesnt matter about the shape of the aircraft. if you got a strong enough engine on it to push it through the sky, it can sustain flight. least i think that was the point  

That's why it has both dihedral and anhedral in the wings and stabilator, aerodynamic stability.  A demonstration that with enough horsepower, even a refrigerator can go supersonic.  

[flight17]

May I add the fact that the wings are a little short, what makes it fly is that huge engine, not sayings its crap i said Flying Characteristics were a joke, I never doubted its flying ability.

dont always believe what a picture is showing you. thats a ~12ft wingspan

It didn't need any other characteristics other than to be able to fit under the wing/fueselage of the towing plane that took it up, fly straight and level for X-amount of time when released, and fall out of the sky when it got shot.

thats not true for this model. It was fully remote controlled.

[Penguin]

get rid of the badger and change it to a short bus

Hey, leave him alone.

-Penguin

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

It did have a tendency to fall out of the sky. Didn't the F104 almost kill Chuck Yeager?

It had really twitchy low speed handling characteristics, a trade off made in its time to gain the speed that fighter pilots demanded. Jet engines were still very new, and not very efficient, so in order to get the desired speed, the plane was made like a missile. It remained in service as a front line fighter for around 30 years. Not a bad record, actually. Fighter pilots of the time asked for speed and acceleration, Kelly Johnson gave it to them.

[mensa180]

From what I understand shorter wings are more desirable the faster and higher you want to go, terribly inefficient in thicker atmosphere though, Mach 3+ and you start to be riding in a rocket that happens to have wings [ex: X15] more than you're riding in an airplane.