190 training

[BnZs]

Ill take this as compliment, it was grizz in a p38j and he had alt. On me

You cunningly lured him into a false sense of security by flying a 190.

[Babalonian]

Look for IrishOne, he's got a lot of experience fighting in the As I believe.

See, the 190s roll rate is about the best in the game, no question...

Unfortunately, the *best* use for roll rate is in a nose-to-nose fight. And the other vital qualitys to have in a nose-to-nose fight, such as a flat scissors, is small turn radius, the ability to decelerate, and good handling slow. Qualities where the 190 is about the worst in-game.

Any number of pilots in AHII are dangerous on the defensive in Jugs and lethal in Corsairs because of the way those planes combine roll rate, slow speed handling, and a good punch. Alas, the 190s just don't have it in them.

Yeah, but the OP specificaly is talking about the 190A-5.  Of which all qualities you just dismised it as a competitor for it is actualy very capable of.

190's are meat on the table...or running away to friends or ACK....used how they were intended they excel greatly, but to try to fight someone who knows how to fight, its a losing battle.

190D-9 > Ki-84

 
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You cunningly lured him into a false sense of security by flying a 190.

I just don't think he's been flying around anymore, otherwise he's been avoiding any airspace with knit 190s around recently.



If you're clueless about the 190 series, best to remain silent in a thread asking for solid information about them rather than open your mouth, creating confusion and false pretenses for the person smart enough to know when to ask for more information about something they know little about or have minimal experience with.

[BnZs]

Look for IrishOne, he's got a lot of experience fighting in the As I believe.

Yeah, but the OP specificaly is talking about the 190A-5.  Of which all qualities you just dismised it as a competitor for it is actualy very capable of.

The 190 A5 has the largest no-flaps turn radius of any fighter in the game, excluding other 190s. Its full flap radius is actually slightly smaller than a P-51Ds. However, there is the slight problem with getting them out...

Capt. Eric Brown gives a clean stall speed for the 190 he tested of around 127mph IAS. If the 190s in AHII are modeled anywhere close to this, this is bad news for the 190's slow speed handling. Compare to the usually quoted stall speed for a P-51 @9611 pounds of 100mph IAS...and the P-51 isn't exactly known as a slow speed turner either.

If you're clueless about the 190 series, best to remain silent in a thread asking for solid information about them rather than open your mouth, creating confusion and false pretenses for the person smart enough to know when to ask for more information about something they know little about or have minimal experience with.

190s, including the A5 for long stretches, were my primary MA ride for almost two years. I would be far more suspicious of anyone who claims to know 190s but is apparently unaware the fact that the 190s have just about the largest turn radius and highest stall speed of any aircraft in game.

[ScottyK]

See if 'IrishOne' from the Muppets has some time...he's very accomplished in that model 190.

 my thoughts exactly


 and look up COUNT from JG11.


 i would mention myself, but im a nobody.

[mthrockmor]

I've spent a lot of time in the Dora. Against a noob or a mediorce pilot in anything but pure turners (Spit, Zero, etc) the Dora can handle itself pretty well, even in a stall turn. Against a good pilot the strategy is to disengage, gain speed and try for slash attacks. I've not spent much time in the A5 but note that it turns much better then a Dora. In the hands of a skilled, patient pilot I'm guessing it can ruin many opinions.

Boo

[PFactorDave]

190's are meat on the table...or running away to friends or ACK....used how they were intended they excel greatly, but to try to fight someone who knows how to fight, its a losing battle.

This is exactly my experience.

There are very very few pilots in AH who can make a 190 do anything other then 1 pass extend out 4 to 6k (or more).  The only reason 190s get so much use is because they are faster then a large portion of the plane set.  They are flown by people who want to have the option to run away when things go wrong,  Same as P51Ds.  It is sad and shameful that those airframes are so popular.

In my opinion.

[PFactorDave]

double post...  oops

[Oldman731]

I would be far more suspicious of anyone who claims to know 190s but is apparently unaware the fact that the 190s have just about the largest turn radius and highest stall speed of any aircraft in game.

A good point (except you mean of fighters, not of any aircraft) (I hope).

- oldman

[Debrody]

I've spent a lot of time in the Dora. Against a noob or a mediorce pilot in anything but pure turners (Spit, Zero, etc) the Dora can handle itself pretty well, even in a stall turn. Against a good pilot the strategy is to disengage, gain speed and try for slash attacks. I've not spent much time in the A5 but note that it turns much better then a Dora. In the hands of a skilled, patient pilot I'm guessing it can ruin many opinions.

In a stallfight, sustained turn the A-5 isnt much better than the dora. But in an instanteous turn, it is, handles really nice over 220mph. Also climbs almost as good, but much slower.
Joachim, post that film plz   

[JOACH1M]

In a stallfight, sustained turn the A-5 isnt much better than the dora. But in an instanteous turn, it is, handles really nice over 220mph. Also climbs almost as good, but much slower.
Joachim, post that film plz   

I don't save easy kill films

[mtnman]

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I don't save easy kill films

Were they afk?  

Without the film, or something similar, it's impossible to meaningfully rate a fight, kill, pilot, or plane-type based simply on who or what it's killed.  For all we know, you "picked" those kills while they were fighting in a 20 vs. 1, vulched them, or pinged them enough to get the kill when someone else finished them off...

Especially if you would consider them "easy kill films".  Just sayin'...

I'm not saying you didn't master them in even fights, either.  Just that the picture you posted means very little, if that much...  Why only 5 kills?

I've been killed by some very low-skilled, inexperienced players.  Heck, I've even been killed by shrubbery!  Does that mean my ride-of-choice isn't very good?

[Debrody]

I don't save easy kill films

uhoh 

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Were they afk?  

Without the film, or something similar, it's impossible to meaningfully rate a fight, kill, pilot, or plane-type based simply on who or what it's killed.  For all we know, you "picked" those kills while they were fighting in a 20 vs. 1, vulched them, or pinged them enough to get the kill when someone else finished them off...

Especially if you would consider them "easy kill films".  Just sayin'...

I'm not saying you didn't master them in even fights, either.  Just that the picture you posted means very little, if that much...  Why only 5 kills?

I've been killed by some very low-skilled, inexperienced players.  Heck, I've even been killed by shrubbery!  Does that mean my ride-of-choice isn't very good?

considering how he flies I would say all 5 were picks/vulches/hoard kills

[JOACH1M]

Grizz can say it happened...

[mthrockmor]

I picked Silat a few months back. Admitted it was at 15k and I'm guessing he was getting a bag of chips but hey, who cares...chalk one up baby!!

Boo