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Offline hawkeye61

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SBD-5 and SB2C
« on: June 05, 2011, 09:33:01 PM »
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 09:39:56 PM »
We have the SBD-5.

It does need a graphics update though.
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 09:49:08 PM »
Nyet, we have the SBD-3. We should replace the -3 with the -5 since we could use the extra horsepower and the extra 1000lbs of eggs.

And give the damn model a working tailhook too!
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 10:19:13 PM »
Pretty sure we have the -5.  I recall being pretty annoyed that they paired the 1937 D3A1 with the 1943 SBD-5 when it should have been either the D3A1 and SBD-3 or D3A2 and SBD-5.  The D3A2 was 40-50mph faster than the D3A1.

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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 03:53:10 AM »
Yes, the SBD-5 that we have needs to be brought up to AH2 graphic standards.

BTW- Karnak is correct hawkeye61, as you have probably already found out, we have the SBD-5 and not the -3.

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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 02:05:34 PM »
Very well. It still needs a payload update then - 100lb bombs are good for not much.
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 02:25:44 PM »
Very well. It still needs a payload update then - 100lb bombs are good for not much.
What load out should it have?

Also, keep in mind you are matching it against a 1937 dive bomber, so to a degree balance needs to be considered.  A heavy, but rare, load out would probably be inappropriate.
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 02:32:27 PM »
What load out should it have?

A 1,600lber on the center line, and 325s under the wings sure would be nice.  Seems like our SBD is one of the Frankenplanes made up of a couple different models.  Discussed a bit here ->http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,299623.0.html
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 12:32:46 AM »
why for you need nother amreekan plane?  damned yankess
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 02:22:57 AM »
why for you need nother amreekan plane?  damned yankess
Nonsense.  It would seem that we need the SBD-3 added and for the SBD-5 to have its bomb load adjusted.
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 07:23:57 AM »
Nonsense.  It would seem that we need the SBD-3 added and for the SBD-5 to have its bomb load adjusted.
define the word need in as pertains to these aircraft...is it something that should take precendence over aircraft for other countries that aren't currently available, or could it wait a few years?
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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 09:30:21 AM »
You can spell better than this.... I've seen it.   :old:

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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 09:31:07 AM »
define the word need in as pertains to these aircraft...is it something that should take precendence over aircraft for other countries that aren't currently available, or could it wait a few years?


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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 10:09:28 AM »
From previous discussions on the matter:



These heavy loads where generally used by the Marine Corps SBDs engaged in close support work. Typically, they operated from airfields bulldozed out of the coral, sometimes within sight of the front lines. So, flight endurance was never an issue. SBDs where used effectively for blasting bunkers and caves on several different islands during the island hopping campaigns of 1943-45. Indeed, the Jarheads liked the SBD because nothing else in their inventory could put bombs on target with accuracy even close to that attained by the Dauntless.

Such loads where not used by USN SBDs, because the required takeoff run was too great even for the Essex class CVs, much CVLs and the little CVEs. There is the possibility that overloaded SBDs could be catapulted off.

By the way, escort carriers (CVE, initially built on merchant ship hulls) would be a terrific addition to the game. Flying only Wildcats, SBDs and TBMs, (although the F6F and F4U did fly from CVEs for training purposes) they would be ideal for supplementing the current TGs. I think they would be of great value for TODs, where suicide runs are discouraged by the fact that you have just one life to lose.

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P.S. The D3A2 was nearly a 1943 plane. It would not be the contemporary for most of the CV battles in the early war setup. You might say the D3A1 was a 1939 design, but so was the A6M2, and both of them remained the premiere front-line planes for the IJN until late 1942 (and even later).

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Re: SBD-5 and SB2C
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 01:55:38 PM »
P.S. The D3A2 was nearly a 1943 plane. It would not be the contemporary for most of the CV battles in the early war setup. You might say the D3A1 was a 1939 design, but so was the A6M2, and both of them remained the premiere front-line planes for the IJN until late 1942 (and even later).
Yes, the D3A2 was a contemporary of the SBD-5.

The A6M2 entered service in 1940 and hence would be considered a 1940 plane.  The D3A1 entered service in, IIRC, 1937 and hence would be a 1937 plane.
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