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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2011, 11:03:43 AM »
We can freeze embryos?  I learn something new every day. :O

yup, there are people alive today who were born from sperm or embryos frozen for over 10yrs. another few years and we should be able to preserve them almost indefinitely.


However, wouldn't a year in space take its toll on them?

good question :) travelling outside our magnotosphere takes its toll on humans of any age. difference is that a freezer with 10,000 embryos is alot easier and cheaper to shield from radiation than 10,000 fully grown humans.
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« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2011, 11:08:31 AM »
yup, there are people alive today who were born from sperm or embryos frozen for over 10yrs. another few years and we should be able to preserve them almost indefinitely.
Not to mention the people who are Cryogenically frozen, for now we don't know how to revive them, but soon we will have the technology.
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« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2011, 11:08:49 AM »
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2011, 11:12:52 AM »
Not to mention the people who are Cryogenically frozen, for now we don't know how to revive them, but soon we will have the technology.

We dont have the tech to freeze whole people properly yet, let alone revive them.

anyone who is in cryogenic containment at this stage is sadly just a frozen dead guy :(
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« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2011, 11:33:45 AM »
yup, there are people alive today who were born from sperm or embryos frozen for over 10yrs. another few years and we should be able to preserve them almost indefinitely.


good question :) travelling outside our magnotosphere takes its toll on humans of any age. difference is that a freezer with 10,000 embryos is alot easier and cheaper to shield from radiation than 10,000 fully grown humans.

So now the only problem would be unfreezing the embryos and implanting them, then rearing them.  My only question is one of morals: wouldn't allowing people to pick and choose what their child looks like be just like Nazism all over again?

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« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2011, 11:39:18 AM »
I didnt mention anything about selection/screening, no need to confuse this with ethics. its just about what is technically feasible.
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« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2011, 11:57:41 AM »
Ah, my mistake. :)

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« Reply #82 on: June 21, 2011, 04:08:55 PM »

Option 3: Colonize Mars.  This is by far the most expensive, dangerous and time-consuming option, because over 500 people (250 men and 250 women) would have to go in rapid succession in order to prevent inbreeding.  However, its opportunities for both scientific research and economic benefit are practically unlimited.

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You do not need to send 250 men with 250 women over there.  All you need is 250 women, a few cases of beer, and one guy in a pick up truck. 

Much cheaper and also makes earth a little quieter  :old:
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« Reply #83 on: June 21, 2011, 04:14:13 PM »
... and also makes earth a little quieter  :old:

 :lol :aok
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« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2011, 05:55:22 PM »
Keep an eye on SpaceX in the coming years.  They've already made superb advances.
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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2011, 06:20:02 PM »
We dont have the tech to freeze whole people properly yet, let alone revive them.

anyone who is in cryogenic containment at this stage is sadly just a frozen dead guy :(
Not true, they expose the bodies to slow cold and use liquids to prevent cells from forming spikes when they freeze and thus reduce damage and prevent the body from decaying. Babe Ruth is frozen did ya know?
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« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2011, 06:44:11 PM »
Not true, they expose the bodies to slow cold and use liquids to prevent cells from forming spikes when they freeze and thus reduce damage and prevent the body from decaying. Babe Ruth is frozen did ya know?

It's kind of hard to say you've properly froze a guy when no one has been unfrozen yet.
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« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2011, 07:46:39 PM »
On the contrary, Mars has abundant mineral resources, and mining there also wouldn't upset greenies like myself, since there isn't any ecosystem to disrupt.  Furthermore, with or without terraforming it would create another 'Wild Wild West' for us expand into.

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Re: Come on why!?
« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2011, 07:50:45 PM »
It's kind of hard to say you've properly froze a guy when no one has been unfrozen yet.

     That reminds me of the sign the Parachute Riggers shop used to have "We've never had anyone come back claiming
a bad chute yet!"  :D
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« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2011, 10:11:37 PM »
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