CH Pro Pedals

[Tigger29]

If they were mine I'd just rebuild the wires myself.. just make a new harness.  Wires are cheap.  What I don't quite understand is why they would anchor the wires to a moving part unnecessarily.  That just doesn't make sense.  No wonder it broke!

For the record, these thin wires are pretty typical for all of this computer equipment.  Automotive wiring isn't really any better these days either.

[Blagard]

I live in UK the shipping would probably cost as much as the pedals,

I live in the UK as well. Your first stop is your supplier (Sale of Goods act protection etc.).

It's not nice to have anything break, but you are out of touch with reality. One wire connection broke and want to chuck the kit away, because you can't solder small wires, and don't give a toss about warranty or consumer rights. If I was that bothered about the wires I would do what Tigger29 suggests.

[pervert]

I live in the UK as well. Your first stop is your supplier (Sale of Goods act protection etc.).

It's not nice to have anything break, but you are out of touch with reality. One wire connection broke and want to chuck the kit away, because you can't solder small wires, and don't give a toss about warranty or consumer rights. If I was that bothered about the wires I would do what Tigger29 suggests.

Its not that I cannot solder wires, the problem is the wires are all over the place I mean look at the photo is it really any wonder one of them caught and broke?? So what your now asking me to do is get the wires bound together, then figure out a way to suspend them so they cannot interfer with the travel of the pedals? But at the same time ensuring that the wire is placed in such a way that it will not suffer a dry connection or complete breakage at the point it enters each pedal from constant bending?

I can tell you now after looking at this that it is impossible to do without leaving screws that hold the casing together out and sawing the mouldings for the screws away from the casing, like AKAK said this has been designed wrong for 15 years. These pedals roll in a straight line, a simpler design would be to base them on real rudder pedals and run the wire through the link, removing any chance of wires catching on moving parts but I suspect they are designed like this for a dual purpose ie driving sims.

You think anyone in their right mind would pay top dollar for these and then do a complete redesign job because the design is basically flawed? Whos out of touch with reality now? If this thread or the picture gives some unknown searcher or player the opportunity to see what they are paying for before they buy then this thread has done its job.

[Ack-Ack]

Well I guess people like you are the reason ch or any company for that matter can get away with selling a product that is poorly designed, without the need to improve or fix it for 15 years.  

Even with the design defect, the Pro Pedals and other CH Products are very well made.  The people that have stated they've had CH gear in working order for years without any problems aren't in the minority.

I know when I worked at CH when the Pro Pedals were first introduced, even with the design flaw we saw very little Pro Pedals sent back in due to the problem, most RMA's were to replace pots or to put the pedals back together again because the customer thought they could replace the pots themselves.

ack-ack

[Drano]

I've had CH stuff for years and years. It's totally bulletproof. I've replaced this and that over the years because of general wear and tear just like anything else. I don't have the pedals not because of the wire problem but because they're just too narrow. If anything I wish they'd make wider pedals. Now THERE'S a design error.

[zack1234]

I have CH pedals and they work fine, if i had seen that photo of wiring i would not have bought them

No matter what is said about quality of CH products the wiring is complete rubbish when one of those wires breaks i will replace all the wiring.

To be honest as has been stated previously a lot of gadgets underneath are of such quality.

I think one of my squad mates bought a Thrustmaster Warthog joystick and it was rubbish, its luck of the draw nowadays in regards to quality.

I have just had a drama with a graphics card

[CAV]

My CH pedals have to be like 10 years old..........

They look like He!!........ but they work just like they came out of the box.

Cav

[Shamus]

I had the same problem about a year and a half after I bought mine. Spliced a bit heavier longer wire in at the break and it's been good for 7-8 years so far.

shamus

[ozrocker]

Hey Pervert, illustrate and explain your design improvement and apply for the patent
Maybe you could make some big bucks.
And Yes you can get a patent for an improvement of an item that's
already out there.
You and Blagard live in the UK, maybe you guys should get together and have a pint,
then slap each other around over the pedals discussion
If you decide you want to sling them, I'll pay shipping to "sling"
them across the pond


                                                                                                                                    Oz

[Pollock]

Pervert,  You have to understand if you state a personal opinion in here of any negativity towards CH products you are going to get hammered by the CH fan boys, just do a search. 

It is quite possible that within the last few years some of their product quality has been lessened, perhaps to cut costs to stay profitable.  Most of the old geezers in here still have gameport CH stuff that is rock solid.

Good luck finding something built better look at some pictures of cracked open thrustmaster and saitek stuff you will see the same quality. 

[Patches1]

  Pervert!

I, too, own all CH gear. My pedals are now eight (8) years old and operate just as they did on the first day and I have "flown" nearly every day with them. I'm sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience with your set of pedals and I certainly understand your wrath at having a wire break just after you purchased them. However, I side with others who suggest trying to repair them rather than discard them. Who knows...perhaps after repair they may last a considerable period of time and give you great joy.

Best of Luck to you, Sir.

[pervert]

This is from shidas post in our squad forum,



For any of the CH owners if one of your wires pops out of one of these little retainers its a fair bet it will get chopped, yeah yours have worked for years and no I wouldn't wish it on anyone considering the price. But its not beyond the realm of imagination that one of these wires could work its way free from the retaining 'slit'

Hey Pervert, illustrate and explain your design improvement and apply for the patent
Maybe you could make some big bucks.
And Yes you can get a patent for an improvement of an item that's
already out there.
You and Blagard live in the UK, maybe you guys should get together and have a pint,
then slap each other around over the pedals discussion
If you decide you want to sling them, I'll pay shipping to "sling"
them across the pond


                                                                                                                                    Oz

Cheers ballbag 

[Reschke]

Simple fix AFTER you solder them back to the connection....put hot glue over the top of the retainer and they should not come out again.

[Revvin]

While its not unknown for this to happen its not a common fault either. I could tell you my pedals have lasted years without issue but it doesn't help you much in your predicament. What would have been better is if you had contacted CH Products before openign them up and voiding your warranty and tell them what the problem was and they could have likely diagnised it without opening up the pedals and arranged an RMA with one of their worldwide distributors. They have one in the UK that would probably have been able to send out a replacement set and it would have cost far less to send your old pedals back to them.

[zack1234]

I think the main point in thread is for the coin spent the quality of wiring is poo

The construction of it seems good though.

CH products are very good and practical in design but rather dull looking, if they were a person they would be Yarbles who flies with The Few