Freakin poison ivy

[morfiend]

Oops I made a mistake,always thought it was Irene Dunn who played granny,oh well open mouth insert foot!







   

[jimson]

Nah

Mixing up 2 brunette (when younger) Irenes from the same basic era wont climb very high on a list of big fails.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Nah

Mixing up 2 brunette (when younger) Irenes from the same basic era wont climb very high on a list of big fails.

Even if it's in a dark and sweaty car back seat and the Irene who isn't there happens to be your wife?

[NatCigg]

Supposedly, if you ingest poison ivy/oak, you will never get it.

I think there is a good chance you will die if you try this.

[NatCigg]

It is illegal for poison ivy and poison oak to grow in California.  I can honestly say i have never seen it.  I lived in nc for 9 years and it wasnt allowed to come near me or my family  .

semp

Poison ivy grows in the eastern part of america. Poison oak is mainly in the west.

[MaSonZ]

how can it be "illegal" for a plant to grow? thats like asking how marijuana can be illegal... but poison ivy/oak isnt "abused" like marijuana.

[c H e F]

Sure, it's like pizza, personal taste, but here's some stunning actresses, back when they were real & not like today's manufactured kids of producers, Disney'ites who have no shape, no HTW. These kind who had real glamor and mystique....Faces: Lauren Bacall, Liz Taylor, Bods: Jane Mansfield, similar to Kim Kardashian ...the rest today are inert really, this side of Brazil.

What is it? This skinny stuff today, adolescents strutting sinew and ligaments, having no more shape than a pipe wrench? They wouldn't make nose-art from them.

And this all is quite relevant to poison ivy, I mean if you are going to languish away from yer girl a few days in toxic isolation festering with contagions & pustules ...

[PJ_Godzilla]

What is it? This skinny stuff today, adolescents strutting sinew and ligaments, having no more shape than a pipe wrench? They wouldn't make nose-art from them.

I and many of my friends have non-American (mostly Asians but the occasional Euro) wives. It's just a local and anecdotal thing but I think it's got something to do with leathery weatherbeaten, ridden-hard/put away wet sort of lot-lizard girls that seem to be kind of common here these days. I see a lot of 'em in this college town. You cite one variety - the pretentious heroin chic ex-konzentrazioneslager girl. I can do without the type m'self.

This is not to say there aren't many good American women, just that there aren't enough, what with the "undesirables". Those last should just keep hanging at the bars with their tethers and wondering why they get treated like dirt always. (haaaw, haaaw). Just look for the bullseye tramp stamp on the small of the back... then walk away.

[Penguin]

Geez, I'm sure that they'd be perfectly nice if you got to know them.  Just because a girl is ugly doesn't mean that she doesn't have a heart of gold (I've learned that firsthand).  Never judge a book by its cover, many girls in my school who look like prudes are quite open if you let them relax.  Many girls whom many would judge as 'trashy' (in my opinion, there is no such thing as human beings who are trash) are some of the shyest I've ever met.

There's a great deal more to be experienced in actually talking to a person and learning about them than just judging them by the way they look.

-Penguin

[PJ_Godzilla]

Geez, I'm sure that they'd be perfectly nice if you got to know them. 

-Penguin

Penguin, do you see anywhere in my post where I make reference to their looks? Did it occur that leathery and weatherbeaten, not to mention pretentious, undesirable, or "tethered" has much more to do with behavior than looks? You're very young. I will offer you this: learn to set standards for acceptable conduct in those with whom you associate 1. not too high, or they will be impossible to attain and you'll find yourself alone, 2. not too low or you will become a human garbage dump, willing to accept anything.

I recognize that there is a school of thought that thinks all behaviors are equally acceptable. I didn't go to that school.

[Penguin]

Penguin, do you see anywhere in my post where I make reference to their looks? Did it occur that leathery and weatherbeaten, not to mention pretentious, undesirable, or "tethered" has much more to do with behavior than looks? You're very young. I will offer you this: learn to set standards for acceptable conduct in those with whom you associate 1. not too high, or they will be impossible to attain and you'll find yourself alone, 2. not too low or you will become a human garbage dump, willing to accept anything.

I recognize that there is a school of thought that thinks all behaviors are equally acceptable. I didn't go to that school.

I googled their definitions and they were all visual adjectives.  You are either using them as slang (which is wrong to assume that everyone knows) or just do not understand their definitions.

I very well know what pretentious means, and if you stop enabling the behavior, they will stop acting that way.  There are many pretentious people out there with very good reasons to be so, but even more of them don't have any.

Tethered?  Do you mean emotionally dependent?  I've met those people, they're quite frightening, but I've learned to see past it and be nice to them anyway.

You seem to have taken my notions too far.  I did not mean that I will always tolerate any kind of behavior.  I meant that I will never condemn any person as 'undesirable', but focus on what they've actually done.  My reason for this is that judging an entire person by their actions is inductive reasoning, which is unsound.  Take the black swan paradox as an example.

Behavior that I will not tolerate include: bullying, crime, violence, and acting upon extremist notions (this includes anything listed under Rule #14).  However, I'm cool with anything else.  There's a way to deal with any behavior or condition, one only needs to manage the negative aspects and enjoy the positive ones.  For instance, I was always mean to the kids with mental conditions; after telling a joke about them to one of my friends, he went on a rant about how cruel it was.  I then realized my mistake, and found ways to not be such a d-bag to them.

-Penguin   

[PJ_Godzilla]

Tethered?  Do you mean emotionally dependent? 
You seem to have taken my notions too far.  I did not mean that I will always tolerate any kind of behavior.  I meant that I will never condemn any person as 'undesirable', but focus on what they've actually done.  My reason for this is that judging an entire person by their actions is inductive reasoning, which is unsound.  Take the black swan paradox as an example.
-Penguin   

Tethered... electronically, or at least fit to be.
Otherwise, All you can judge is actions. No, don't judge the person. Judge the action. The total history of action will write the book on the person, judgment of which is somebody/thing else's call. Otherwise, if Black Swan advances some notion of the Inner Dynamic (aka, the "heart of gold"), I now know that I need not bother with it.

My theme is coherent. It's all about behavior. You can try to peer into souls if you like.

[Penguin]

I still don't understand what you mean by electronically tethered.  The description is a bit vague, would you mind elaborating?

Now on to your next quote:

Otherwise, All you can judge is actions. No, don't judge the person. Judge the action.

-snip-

My theme is coherent. It's all about behavior. You can try to peer into souls if you like.

That sounds fine and dandy, but wait:

I and many of my friends have non-American (mostly Asians but the occasional Euro) wives. It's just a local and anecdotal thing but I think it's got something to do with leathery weatherbeaten, ridden-hard/put away wet sort of lot-lizard girls that seem to be kind of common here these days. I see a lot of 'em in this college town. You cite one variety - the pretentious heroin chic ex-konzentrazioneslager girl. I can do without the type m'self.

This is not to say there aren't many good American women, just that there aren't enough, what with the "undesirables". Those last should just keep hanging at the bars with their tethers and wondering why they get treated like dirt always. (haaaw, haaaw). Just look for the bullseye tramp stamp on the small of the back... then walk away.

This quote makes me think otherwise.  You seem to be very focused on judging the person.

The total history of action will write the book on the person, judgment of which is somebody/thing else's call. Otherwise, if Black Swan advances some notion of the Inner Dynamic (aka, the "heart of gold"), I now know that I need not bother with it.

Unfortunately, you've missed the point.  Unless you have observed them for every moment of their life, you will never be able to fully judge them (this excludes those who have had biographies written about them or have written autobiographies).  Therefore, the time that you will know them is but a portion of their life, which cannot be used to judge their entire life (which you seem to have quite self-contradictory stances on).

-Penguin

[PJ_Godzilla]

Unfortunately, you've missed the point.  Unless you have observed them for every moment of their life, you will never be able to fully judge them (this excludes those who have had biographies written about them or have written autobiographies).  Therefore, the time that you will know them is but a portion of their life, which cannot be used to judge their entire life (which you seem to have quite self-contradictory stances on).

-Penguin

What did I say, Penguina? Let me repeat it. You judge the action. Don't judge the person. I left that specifically to someone/thing else (some would call this God). You've turned my statement 180 degrees and misrepresented it. I was quite specific.  This ties in to your confusion, perhaps, with tethering. An electronic tether is something a parolee earns as a reward for bad BEHAVIOR. Society, and the law judge such commonly, as do I. Study my quote. What do I say about pattern BEHAVIOR. Words have meanings, Penguina.

I'll add, to help you out, that yes, you can look at and SEE a tether. This is a visual cue that someone has engaged in past faulty decision-making that has led to bad behavior. Is that judging the person? It need not be. It could be a simple deduction of the person's recent behavior and desireability of same. In either case, I'd counsel you to avoid those who wear a tether. If that's too judgmental for you, then perhaps you should spend more time with parolees to test my assertion. You need not take my word for it.

Finally, you claimed to have looked up the adjectives (and I'm inferring), "leathery, weatherbeaten, ridden hard/put away wet, lot lizard" and come down with "all visual" definitions. I assert you did no such thing since clearly those characterizations (pertinent to CHARACTER) are clearly figurative and only one could be discerned visually anyway. File that under nice try.

[Penguin]

So you've stooped to name calling, brilliant

I have not turned your statement around.  You have.  You are contradicting yourself.  First, you judged these girls, and then you say to only judge actions.  This is a textbook example of self contradiction.

Your explanation of electronic tethering was just plain old condescension.

Your point on pattern behavior is unsound, and you find out why on this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning

-Penguin