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Offline mthrockmor

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Sad day for the RAF
« on: July 04, 2011, 08:56:13 PM »
I suppose this is to be expected in todays environment. At some level an air force is to small and would have little ability to either project power or defend. Right now Libya is a massive strain for countries involved, or so I am reading. With no threat of a European war for decades to come the question is how much is needed. Strikes me the UK would do better with a couple CVs and the navalized F-35.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20110702.aspx

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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 09:17:19 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on July 04, 2011, 08:56:13 PM
I suppose this is to be expected in todays environment. At some level an air force is to small and would have little ability to either project power or defend. Right now Libya is a massive strain for countries involved, or so I am reading. With no threat of a European war for decades to come the question is how much is needed. Strikes me the UK would do better with a couple CVs and the navalized F-35.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20110702.aspx

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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 09:42:31 PM »
Don't feel to bad, the US is not too far away from the same thing.
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 09:52:17 PM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on July 04, 2011, 08:56:13 PM
I suppose this is to be expected in todays environment. At some level an air force is to small and would have little ability to either project power or defend. Right now Libya is a massive strain for countries involved, or so I am reading. With no threat of a European war for decades to come the question is how much is needed. Strikes me the UK would do better with a couple CVs and the navalized F-35.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20110702.aspx

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you guys would do best to get the hell outta there....as would we.
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 09:53:48 PM »
edit: I'm just going to save Skuzzy the trouble and 'Rule #14' myself now.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2011, 09:58:07 PM by Delirium »
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2011, 09:56:00 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on July 04, 2011, 09:53:48 PM
This will likely draw all kinds of ire from this community, but we shouldn't be spending as much as we are. The amount we are spending on countries that don't even want us there is staggering, not to mention some of the free hand outs we give to countries like Pakistan.

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Delirium, i agree, but out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on why we are involved? I see how in no way it is going to benefit us being in Libya, or Afghanistan, or Iraq....

dont mean to hijack this to politics Skuzzy...
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 10:12:21 PM »
Quote from: MaSonZ on July 04, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
Delirium, i agree, but out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on why we are involved? I see how in no way it is going to benefit us being in Libya, or Afghanistan, or Iraq....

dont mean to hijack this to politics Skuzzy...

i think what you just said is what a lot are trying to say.....i generally don't say anything, because i don't want anyone to think i'm disrespecting the great men and women that are going there and doing their duty.....but i do not think our men and women should be ripped from their families and sent there though...........


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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 11:03:32 PM »
How is posting a story about the RAF cutting pilots a violation of Rule #14?

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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 01:09:55 AM »
Quote from: mthrockmor on July 04, 2011, 11:03:32 PM
How is posting a story about the RAF cutting pilots a violation of Rule #14?

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It is political related.
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Offline mthrockmor

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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 06:40:35 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on July 05, 2011, 01:09:55 AM
It is political related.

It is news. And news in an area we all enjoy. Politics would be to comment on who is right or wrong. I think everyone is getting hypersensitive.

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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 06:43:23 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on July 05, 2011, 01:09:55 AM
It is political related.

No.   Delirium moderated himself to avoid the rule 14.   
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 06:49:14 AM »
Quote from: Masherbrum on July 05, 2011, 06:43:23 AM
No.   Delirium moderated himself to avoid the rule 14.   
i sorta hijacked and asked a political question. long as it doesnt turn into a political battlefield, one question isnt the end of the world. 
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 07:31:32 AM »
That's why politics are not in the forums, because 1 question becomes a
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 07:49:54 AM »
Quote from: ozrocker on July 05, 2011, 07:31:32 AM
That's why politics are not in the forums, because 1 question becomes a
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Re: Sad day for the RAF
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 08:26:11 AM »
Dang. I guess I will need to figure out how to delete this post when I get to the office. I don't mind getting band from the boards for a week but don't want to lead others astray. This is simply a link about the demise of the RAF. Without commenting on the who, what or why of it. Pretty boring if we can't even discuss this. Maybe we should do a work session in Robert Rules of Order and Decorum. There are some great minds in this community and I know I could learn much though its impossible with a gag order in place. Disappointing but there it is. My bad...

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